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Bragging Of Blackmailing Appraiser

Discussion in 'General Appraisal Discussion' started by Tawfik Ahdab, Jul 31, 2005.

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  1. Tawfik Ahdab

    Tawfik Ahdab Senior Member

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    Feb 19, 2003
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    I found this on Broker Outpost.

    See the post by Tsnyder:

    http://www.brokeroutpost.com/loans/brokers...p?TOPIC_ID=4886

     
  2. Ray Miller

    Ray Miller Elite Member

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    Feb 20, 2002
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    Thanks for post this. I can use it as a reference in a response to the state on another complaint that was filed on me for being rude to the LO.

    This kind of thing just lights the fuse that will cause an explosion of verbal abuse, if they continue to press the matter.

    The appraiser covered his back side at least by going back out.
     
  3. TEL2002

    TEL2002 Elite Member

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    Jan 16, 2002
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    Louisiana
    Tawfik,

    Thanks for the link.

    I enjoyed your comments. You are knowledgeable and gave that guy the straight scoop. But, I doubt he will take it to heart.
     
  4. Webbed Feet

    Webbed Feet Elite Member

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    Feb 11, 2005
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    To All,

    Actually, this reinforces my feelings that a large group of us need to invade mortgage broker forums and start setting them all straight on these matters.

    Barry Dayton
     
  5. Annemieke Roell

    Annemieke Roell Senior Member

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    I have found the Brokers Outpost to be a great vehicle to educate mortgage people as well as weeding out the ones who I never want to do work for. And it is very encouraging to see several appraisers responding to some of the myths being perpetuated there.

    One thing I am wondering about ..... why are only a few of us willing to use our real names on there?
     
  6. Rudy Canoza

    Rudy Canoza Senior Member

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    Sep 27, 2003
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    Actually, this reinforces my feelings that the only good mortgage broker is an incarcerated mortgage broker... [​IMG]

    /I'm just sayin'...
     
  7. George Hatch

    George Hatch Elite Member

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    Jan 15, 2002
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    In terms of attitudes I think their group is just as diverse as is ours'. I don't think going over there and getting militant is the most effective way to get our message across - I think the most effective way is to do it just like we do here when one of our own is way out over the top. We acknowledge and reinforce that which is reasonable and explain why there are better options for the things that are unreasonable.

    We agree with the portions of the viewpoints that we agree with, acknowledge the legitimate motivations of even the unreasonable viewpoints, to the extent there are any, and above all try to avoid the kind of insider bashing that we can do among our own. After all we are not insiders over there, we are guests.


    The person who commented that the homeowners will never be put in charge of engaging appraisals to be used for mortgage purposes is right, though. FIRREA requires the regulated institutions to use appraisals that are either directly engaged by them or are engaged by their agents - this is where the MBs come in. If anything, we'd rather have the "or it's agent" removed from the appraisal engagement loop. Make the party whose money it is, the party who is held directly accountable for the appraisals they use, make that party the only one allowed to engage appraisals. Remove the middleman from the loop.

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    The use of nicknames is encouraged over there - When in Rome.... Personally, I'm not hot to use my real name over there because I don't want to "advertise" my services to a group of consumers that I try to avoid in the first place.

    I'd be more concerned about people saying things they wouldn't otherwise normally say if not for the anonymity factor. We can't expect to engender any credibility over there if we all act like its a holy war. Maybe we should ask Roger to be our designated spokesmouth. He seems to like to find the middle ground in these issues.
     
  8. Rudy Canoza

    Rudy Canoza Senior Member

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    The truth is never anonymous...
     
  9. Bill Baughn

    Bill Baughn Senior Member

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  10. Annemieke Roell

    Annemieke Roell Senior Member

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    Aug 28, 2003
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    Oklahoma
    I think that if one attempts to educate others and be credible, one ought to identify oneself.

    For example, the person who "set me straight" on the new regs on ordering appraisals .... if I had known the identity of that poster I may have been able to either discount it or taken it to heart. :shrug:

    You can turn down any client you want. Besides, I don't think those people will be looking at us for appraisals anyway. They are looking for Skippy Appraisals.
     
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