[Alison Swain]

How do I draw a "cut-out" area on the second floor which overlooks the first floor so that the total area is deducted from the GLA?

Please start me out from Step 1.

Thanks.

[Greg davenport]

Originally Posted by Alison Swain

How do I draw a "cut-out" area on the second floor which overlooks the first floor so that the total area is deducted from the GLA?

Please start me out from Step 1.

Thanks.

What version of Apex are you using?

[Thomas Fiehler]

After you draw the second floor, you will add the 2nd floor again, but under the areas, there is an option for negative so you just mark the box and you will now be sketching in the second floor for an area that does not exist. Just do the open area and label it "Open" so the reader understands what you did.

[TEL2002]

A
...----------
..|.............|
C|..............|B
..========|----------<start
D

I treat the area as exterior walls & create a small 'box' of the appropriate size. I cheat the system a little bit as follows.
Wall B is 10' long.
Wall A is 10' long
Wall C is 9.9' long
Wall D is 9.9' long (note that D would not touch B)
Then I drop the line down .1'
Then I reverse the direction of the line and continue with my drawing.

When done with the sketch, I place two diagonal lines in the 'box' forming an X, then put in words saying something like '2 story foyer'.

Admittedly by square footage will be off by about 1 square foot overall, but I don't think that is enough to be concerned.

[Lloyd Bonafide]

Originally Posted by TEL2002

A
...----------
..|.............|
C|..............|B
..========|----------<start
D

I treat the area as exterior walls & create a small 'box' of the appropriate size. I cheat the system a little bit as follows.
Wall B is 10' long.
Wall A is 10' long
Wall C is 9.9' long
Wall D is 9.9' long (note that D would not touch B)
Then I drop the line down .1'
Then I reverse the direction of the line and continue with my drawing.

When done with the sketch, I place two diagonal lines in the 'box' forming an X, then put in words saying something like '2 story foyer'.

Admittedly by square footage will be off by about 1 square foot overall, but I don't think that is enough to be concerned.

You're making it WAY too complicated - see post by Thomas.

If there is an open stairway on the second floor, I just shade it in after I draw it so it is easier for the reader to understand.

[Obsolescent]

For apex sketch. Its quite easy.

http://appraisersforum.com/showthread.php?t=109466

[Randall Garrett]

Alison,

Sorry to be so late replying to this - I am away from my desk.

Here is a link to a step-by-step example document. The example says "Subtracting Staircases" but the steps are the same, you'd just name the Area something like "(Less) Open to Below" or similar.

http://www.apexwin.com/v5/kb/?View=entry&EntryID=27

Hope this helps! Let me know if you need more help.

-Randall Garrett-
..Apex Software..

[Blue1]

Originally Posted by Alison Swain

How do I draw a "cut-out" area on the second floor which overlooks the first floor so that the total area is deducted from the GLA?

Please start me out from Step 1.

Thanks.

Open Apex...right-click > 'Define Area'>choose '2' box>click the 'name' tab>under 'Calculation Adjustment' click "negative">hit OK>draw your area and...VIOLA...you have created a 'hole' in the 2nd floor!!!