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BOBBYGINE

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I did an appraisal on a home that sold at auction. At the inspection I found a converted garage(very, very nice one). The use is legal if permitted. I was not able to verify the permits with the city. I did it subject to verification of permitted status, lender isn't happy. They want it "as is", but with a cost to cure for the garage. Am I wrong to consider this a new assignment since I have now been given a new scope of work. I would decline the assignment, I'm not interested in appraising a home with a illegal garage conversion. And this garage my very well be legal if the client would check with the city directly. What does every one think?
 
New Scope of work .. new assignment. My question is .. if you cant confirm with the city if the garage conversion had a building permit .. how is the lender suppose to do it?
The other question is does the garage, as converted, have a higher value than it would converted back to auto storage? Is this a highest and best use issue?
 
BobbyG: I thought EVERY property had a non-permitted addition or a garage-to-GLA conversion of unknown origin...

Prop: This is a serious question: Is it feasible to have issues like this addressed in the engagement letter and the subsequent SOW? As you know almost all of my assignments are from MB's who e-mail an "order" without any issues being addressed. I have no way of knowing if my situation is typical, or if I am being remiss and exposing myself to unknown liability (& heartache) by failing to develop an appropriate SOW for each assignment.
 
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BobbyG: I thought EVERY property had a non-permitted addition or a garage-to-GLA conversion of unknown origin...

Prop: This is a serious question: Is it feasible to have issues like this addressed in the engagement letter and the subsequent SOW? As you know almost all of my assignments are from MB's who e-mail an "order" without any issues being addressed. I have no way of knowing if my situation is typical, or if I am being remiss and exposing myself to unknown liability (& heartache) by failing to develop an appropriate SOW for each assignment.


Gama ... If the conversion issue is known at the time of order and it is known there exist no permits, then I think it becomes a scope of work issue to be agreed upon between the appraiser and the client. In the original assignment it was unknown and thus it becomes a discussion within the appraisal and the appraisal is either subject to obtaining a permit or subject to reconversion. I think the contributory value "as is" and "as if" would be the determination for how I would appraise the property as it relates to highest and best use and being maximally productive use of the site. I would lean toward appraising the subject "as is", however, I dont know all the specifics of the case thus its a very hard question to answer.
 
XI, 404.01: Zoning (01/31/06)
The appraiser is responsible for reporting the specific zoning classification for the subject property. The appraiser must include a general statement to describe what the zoning permits—“one-family,” “two-family,” etc.—when he or she indicates a specific zoning such as R-1, R-2, etc.

The appraiser also must include a specific statement indicating whether the improvements represent a legal use; a legal, but non-conforming (grandfathered) use; or an illegal use under the zoning regulations; or whether there is no local zoning.


We generally will not purchase or securitize a mortgage on a property if the improvements do not constitute a legally permissible use of the land.

We do make certain exceptions to this policy, as long as the property is appraised and underwritten in accordance with the special requirements we impose as a condition to agreeing to make the exception:

We will purchase or securitize a mortgage that is secured by a one-family to four-family property or a unit in a PUD project if the property represents a legal, but non-conforming, use of the land—as long as the appraiser’s analysis reflects any adverse effect that the non-conforming use has on the value and marketability of the property.
We will purchase or securitize a condominium unit mortgage or a cooperative share loan from a project that represents a legal, but non-conforming, use of the land only if the improvements can be rebuilt to current density in the event of their partial or full destruction. (In such cases, the mortgage file must include a copy of the applicable zoning regulations or a letter from the local zoning authority that authorizes reconstruction to current density.)
We will purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a one-family or two-family property that includes an illegal additional unit or accessory apartment (which may be referred to as a mother-in-law, mother-daughter, or granny unit) as long as the illegal use conforms to the subject neighborhood and to the market. The property must be appraised based upon its current use and the borrower must qualify for the mortgage without considering any rental income from the illegal unit. The appraiser must report that the improvements represent an illegal use and demonstrate that the improvements are typical for the market through an analysis of at least three comparable properties that have the same illegal use. The lender also must make sure that the existence of the illegal additional unit will not jeopardize any future hazard insurance claim that might need to be filed for the property. We will not purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a three-family to four-family property that includes an illegal accessory apartment.
We will not purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a property that is subject to certain land-use regulations (such as coastal tideland or wetland laws) that create setback lines or other provisions that prevent the reconstruction (or maintenance) of the property improvements if they are damaged or destroyed. (The intent of these types of land-use regulations is to remove existing land uses and to stop land development—including the maintenance or construction of seawalls—within specific setback lines.)


** the garage conversion does NOT fall within the Exceptions cited above.

*** absent a required C. of O. there is no way to certify whether the conversion does not not pose a health or safety problem

*** unless policy contains an additional rider covering illegal uses - most h.o. insurance policies are voided when claims are made for fire damage - and the source of the fire was the wiring in the illegal addition


Fannie, and the USPAP, require ACCURATE DESCRIPTION of the subject improvements including potential health or safety issues which MAY negatively impact either livability or marketability.

The conversion exists; it would be misleading to describe it as a garage, it would be misleading to certify it as legal, conforming addition to GLA, when you KNOW for certain it is an Ilegal Use.

When zoning & use ordinances exist, AS IN THIS CASE, and NON-Compliance has been verified during proper Due Diligence, Value Opinion "subject to C.O." is the only way to reliably and credibly describe the improvements and give market-extracted contributory value.
 
XI, 404.01: Zoning (01/31/06)
The appraiser is responsible for reporting the specific zoning classification for the subject property. The appraiser must include a general statement to describe what the zoning permits—“one-family,” “two-family,” etc.—when he or she indicates a specific zoning such as R-1, R-2, etc.

The appraiser also must include a specific statement indicating whether the improvements represent a legal use; a legal, but non-conforming (grandfathered) use; or an illegal use under the zoning regulations; or whether there is no local zoning.


We generally will not purchase or securitize a mortgage on a property if the improvements do not constitute a legally permissible use of the land.

We do make certain exceptions to this policy, as long as the property is appraised and underwritten in accordance with the special requirements we impose as a condition to agreeing to make the exception:

We will purchase or securitize a mortgage that is secured by a one-family to four-family property or a unit in a PUD project if the property represents a legal, but non-conforming, use of the land—as long as the appraiser’s analysis reflects any adverse effect that the non-conforming use has on the value and marketability of the property.
We will purchase or securitize a condominium unit mortgage or a cooperative share loan from a project that represents a legal, but non-conforming, use of the land only if the improvements can be rebuilt to current density in the event of their partial or full destruction. (In such cases, the mortgage file must include a copy of the applicable zoning regulations or a letter from the local zoning authority that authorizes reconstruction to current density.)
We will purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a one-family or two-family property that includes an illegal additional unit or accessory apartment (which may be referred to as a mother-in-law, mother-daughter, or granny unit) as long as the illegal use conforms to the subject neighborhood and to the market. The property must be appraised based upon its current use and the borrower must qualify for the mortgage without considering any rental income from the illegal unit. The appraiser must report that the improvements represent an illegal use and demonstrate that the improvements are typical for the market through an analysis of at least three comparable properties that have the same illegal use. The lender also must make sure that the existence of the illegal additional unit will not jeopardize any future hazard insurance claim that might need to be filed for the property. We will not purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a three-family to four-family property that includes an illegal accessory apartment.
We will not purchase or securitize a mortgage secured by a property that is subject to certain land-use regulations (such as coastal tideland or wetland laws) that create setback lines or other provisions that prevent the reconstruction (or maintenance) of the property improvements if they are damaged or destroyed. (The intent of these types of land-use regulations is to remove existing land uses and to stop land development—including the maintenance or construction of seawalls—within specific setback lines.)


** the garage conversion does NOT fall within the Exceptions cited above.

*** absent a required C. of O. there is no way to certify whether the conversion does not not pose a health or safety problem

*** unless policy contains an additional rider covering illegal uses - most h.o. insurance policies are voided when claims are made for fire damage - and the source of the fire was the wiring in the illegal addition


Fannie, and the USPAP, require ACCURATE DESCRIPTION of the subject improvements including potential health or safety issues which MAY negatively impact either livability or marketability.

The conversion exists; it would be misleading to describe it as a garage, it would be misleading to certify it as legal, conforming addition to GLA, when you KNOW for certain it is an Ilegal Use.

When zoning & use ordinances exist, AS IN THIS CASE, and NON-Compliance has been verified during proper Due Diligence, Value Opinion "subject to C.O." is the only way to reliably and credibly describe the improvements and give market-extracted contributory value.


Neither compliance or non-compliance have been verified Mike .. at least it appears neither has.

Also for whatever its worth ... I dont think Fannie / Freddie have anything to do with "value" only whether they will accept a property for lending purposes. I would also bet that no one knows whether this will end up a Fannie / Freddie loan at this point. Historically there have been many purchasers of loans on the secondary market ... so Im not really sure what the Fannie / Freddie requirements have to do with other than it might be stated as to why the property "may not" meet Fannie / Freddie guidelines. I still do not believe value or the approach to value should be swayed by these regulations. Do you?
 
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Prop:

Changing the subject and back-tracking to your post#2.

Are you saying that the "as is" -- "subject to" dichotomy depends on HBU, and that the decision should be based on whether the original configuration with a cost-to-cure, versus "subject to" value with the client responsible to obtain permits, results in a higher value?

If so, this business is way too erudite for most 'praisers I know including me, as difficult as that is to admit.
 
I did it subject to verification of permitted status, lender isn't happy. They want it "as is", but with a cost to cure for the garage. Am I wrong to consider this a new assignment since I have now been given a new scope of work. I would decline the assignment, I'm not interested in appraising a home with a illegal garage conversion. And this garage my very well be legal if the client would check with the city directly. What does every one think?

I call the client as soon as the conversion is discovered and let them know the SOW has changed to include verifying permits. Either they can verify them at no additional charge or they can pay me to do it. Unfortunately, getting paid for my work was just reduced by the phone call...so hopefully it was COD or I trust this client.

If the results of the EA can effect value, you cant make the report AS-IS, it has to be "subject to the following required inspection based on the extraordinary assumption that the condition or deficiency does not require alteration or repair". If a converted garage is valued the same as GLA in the marketplace, spell it out for them, value it as either a garage or GLA, and make the report AS-IS. But this is probably only so in a market where garage parking is very valuable. I've only seen it in downtown high density area's where parking is limited, but I can imagine that in some areas with extreme weather, garages might have increased value.
 
EVASUSA: I appreciate your insight into the SOW as a "living document" of sorts becuase I was not fully aware of the practical implications of how it might change after the assignment is initiated. However, I gotta imagine that the response you most likely hear is "Your responsibilty to do that is integral to the assignment." I used to send my clients packing for re-build letters but those that had to spend a half-day at the Planning Counter rarely if ever ordered another appraisal--because in their words "none of the other appraisers ever say a property is non-conforming so why do you?." I'm curious to find out how clients respond to your posture on permit-checking. Thanks.
 
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Fannie report/USPAP, SOW has NOT changed. H&BU: "legally permissible";

Illegal is as Illegal Does.

"Subject to C.O.".
 
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