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FHA - Weird Switches

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CANative

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Here's the sketch from yesterday (1960's rancher).

The light switch at the doorway in the M-Bed doesn't turn on the ceiling light. But it does turn on one of the M-Bed closet lights, the hall bathroom lights and the overhead fans in the hall bathroom. The M-Bed bath has it's own switch. It's also a double pole that locks out the light switch to the other M-Bed closet. lol

I don't think there is any hazard but it does reflect a Mickey Mouse remodel which is typical in this area.

Should I "recommend" an electrical inspection?

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Meandering

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Unless there is a safety hazard associated with the placement of the switches, or which lights they turn on, what would an electric inspection prove?

Someone did a poor job of planning the electric on the remodel project?

So,

It's a quality issue, note it and if you can find a comp that had a similar issue which impacted value, adjust others for it.

Otherwise,

why cause an issue over a basic quality issue?

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djd09

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Maybe the light bulb was burnt out.
 

CANative

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No. They had a fan remote control (the "holder" for the remote was mounted over the light switch I'm talking about.)

I guess it's a health and safety issue. Someone in the master bedroom could turn off the other bathroom lights while someone was in the shower forcing them to get out of the shower to turn the light back on... slip and fall or get electrocuted.
 

Meandering

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If they are Amish,
They don't need electric lights.

But if you think it's a safety issue, state that and call for a repair.

What is the inspector going to do?

say yup the appraiser is right?

Call for the repair and let UW wave it.

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CANative

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I was kidding. But Mickey Mouse wiring is no joke.
 

bnmappraisal

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I guess it's a health and safety issue. Someone in the master bedroom could turn off the other bathroom lights while someone was in the shower forcing them to get out of the shower to turn the light back on... slip and fall or get electrocuted.
I think you're looking too into this CAN
The lights/light switch(es) were observed to function at time of inspection.
 

Meandering

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I was kidding. But Mickey Mouse wiring is no joke.

I agree.

But if they never touched the wires, and just moved/added/removed walls without touching the electric,

It's not a matter of mickey mouse wiring, but rather is deferred remodeling.

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CANative

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I think you're looking too into this CAN
The lights/light switch(es) were observed to function at time of inspection.

The switches operate the wrong lights and fans. You shouldn't be able to turn the hall bathroom lights on and off from the master bedroom. And the bathroom switch turns the master bedroom closet lights off.

They've incorrectly wired the circuits and used the wrong type of switches.
 

bnmappraisal

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The switches operate the wrong lights and fans. You shouldn't be able to turn the hall bathroom lights on and off from the master bedroom. And the bathroom switch turns the master bedroom closet lights off.

They've incorrectly wired the circuits and used the wrong type of switches.
I can (no pun intended) see your point IF enough of the lights/switches operated this way.
Personally, if just the bedroom switch and hall (for example) were "switched" I wouldn't consider that a safety concern/call for inspect. If multiple rooms are this way, then I see your point/concern (since this is FHA) and would consider recommending an inspection.
 
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