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Have and have not, goodbye America

Tom D

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The bottom 60% of Americans barely matter to the economy anymore​


America’s economy is increasingly being powered by a tiny wealthy elite while ordinary workers become less economically relevant than ever before.
The top 10% of households now account for roughly half of all consumer spending, while the bottom 60% collectively contribute less than 20%.
At the same time, asset markets, AI investment, and luxury spending continue booming even as millions struggle with debt, stagnant wages, housing costs, and job insecurity. This breakdown explores how the economy evolved into what some analysts call a “plutonomy,” why economic growth no longer guarantees prosperity for average people, and how rising inequality may be creating a system where ordinary workers simply stop mattering to the market altogether.



 
For those who think party affiliation has anything to do with the current level of plutarchy: You may not be the dumbest person in the room, but you better hope the dumbest one doesn't die...
 
Think the Big Beautiful Bill which throws gold to the rich and peanuts to the peasants. Then Donnie tells the peasants how wonderful he is by giving them peanuts. Worse yet, MAGA believes it.
 
I don't know... figures look a bit heavier on the D side, but a pretty healthy mix of R in there as well. As I said...

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Think the Big Beautiful Bill which throws gold to the rich and peanuts to the peasants. Then Donnie tells the peasants how wonderful he is by giving them peanuts. Worse yet, MAGA believes it.
They will just respond that both parties are the same, or what about Biden...

Trump just made the extreme wealth disparity policies exponentially worse. Blatant favoritism toward the billionaire class- the working class gets his speeches about populism and a few crumbs of a tax policy - while the wealthy and corporations got the lion's share. DT keeps dividing the nation with inflammatory rhetoric to distract from the fact that his policies of war, fat crony contracts, and enriching himself at the expense of the nation are unprecedented. The Democrats, of course, have their own failings, but they tried to pass policies of universal health care that would provide a buffer - the RW villified the idea by calling it "communist" or "socialist."

What a shame. The RW idea of border control and defanging DEI could have been carried out by a number of GOP candidates, but they chose Trump.

To be fair, of course this trend started a few decades ago. The extreme wealth disparity is collateral damage from unfettered capitalism. The tech and manufacturing outsourcing to China and overseas- the so-called "it's just business decisions" to strip jobs and replace people with cheaper alternatives has reached a tipping point. Large segments of the young generation might never be able to afford to buy a house or find employment over UBER wages. Maybe it will make our nation less consumer-crazed and return to simpler values - or people will fight over food from dumpsters. Or both.
 
For those who may be mis-enlightened, the following chart depicts the percentage of wealth held by the top 1%. You'll notice that the biggest jump was between the years 1989-2004 (a mix of R & D presidents) and then again from 2009-2014, during which a D presided. Now, it's possible that the trend may show another spike due to DT's involvement, but that would be nothing more than conjecture at this point. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, though!

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For those who may be mis-enlightened, the following chart depicts the percentage of wealth held by the top 1%. You'll notice that the biggest jump was between the years 1989-2004 (a mix of R & D presidents) and then again from 2009-2014, during which a D presided. Now, it's possible that the trend may show another spike due to DT's involvement, but that would be nothing more than conjecture at this point. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, though!

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Um, the article is about the bottom 60%, not the top 1%, but don’t let that stand in the way of a segue that fits your good story.
 
When I check out at Safeway, I notice about 1/3 of the time the person in front of me pays with a 'card' for food items, then pays cash for the candy and booze. I assume they are on some kind of welfare program or 'food assistance.' Also, the rich have capital that create jobs....that's what retained capital is used for. And, "nobody ever got a job from someone who is poor."

But, I asked Perplexity AI to chime in on the article too:

"The article’s core claim is overstated: inequality is real, but the jump from “the rich spend more” to “the bottom 60% barely matter” is not supported by the best available data. The biggest fallacy is a **false inference** from concentration to irrelevance.[1][2][3]

## Main fallacies

- **False dilemma / false binary.** The piece implies either the wealthy drive the economy or ordinary workers do; in reality, both groups matter, because mass household spending still makes up a large share of consumption and demand. The Minneapolis Fed notes the “K-shaped” story is more complicated than headlines suggest, and BLS spending data still show broad-based household consumption, not economic disappearance by the bottom 60%.[2][1]

- **Equivocation on “the economy.”** It quietly shifts between consumer spending, GDP, retail sales, and asset markets as though they were the same thing. That lets it smuggle in a story about luxury and AI spending while pretending it proves a claim about the whole economy.[3][1]

- **Overreliance on one shaky metric.** The “top 10% account for roughly half of consumer spending” line comes from a private estimate that the Minneapolis Fed explicitly says is not a direct measure of household consumption expenditures and is criticized for building spending from savings and wealth data.[1]

- **Cherry-picking / selective emphasis.** The article highlights high-end consumption and weak spot examples like debt and housing stress, but ignores counterevidence such as official survey data showing the bottom half still accounts for a substantial share of spending, and that spending growth patterns have not been consistently “K-shaped.”[2][3][1]

- **Causal oversimplification.** It suggests inequality automatically means ordinary workers no longer “matter” to markets. That is a leap: firms still depend on broad consumer demand for housing, food, transport, health care, and services, and even the Fed’s review says the data do not support a simple K-shaped conclusion.[1][2]

## What the data actually say

The Federal Reserve’s Minneapolis review says the most dramatic “top 10% spends almost half” claim comes from Moody’s-style estimates, but that other data sources show a much more modest pattern. The BLS Consumer Expenditure Survey reports average annual household spending of $78,535 in 2024 and remains the standard survey source for household expenditures, while the Fed review says the CE and related BEA-BLS distributional data do not show a clear post-pandemic K-shaped consumption story.[3][2][1]

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So there. UW-ing would like a further explanation from the appraiser. : )
 
For those who may be mis-enlightened, the following chart depicts the percentage of wealth held by the top 1%. You'll notice that the biggest jump was between the years 1989-2004 (a mix of R & D presidents) and then again from 2009-2014, during which a D presided. Now, it's possible that the trend may show another spike due to DT's involvement, but that would be nothing more than conjecture at this point. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, though!

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Typical MAGA, they always deflect to the past instead of holding what Trump accountable for what he is doing here and now.

Nobody ever said Trump is solely responsible.e I pointed out it started decades ago,
 
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