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Indoor Basketball Court -calculation functional obsolescence/superadequacy

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Dennis B

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Any help with this one would be appreciated. I am working on a new construction with a 20' x 40' indoor basketball court, in basement with 20' high concrete walls and wood floor. Superadequate for neighborhood and no sales found with anything remotely similar. Could you provide suggestions for calculation the functional obsolescence on this as comparable sales data is non-existent.

Have little work and when I get one it's on a white elephant.

Thanks!
Dennis
 
Appraisal Institute's "Appraisal of Real Estate" 12 edition has methods of calculating functional depreciation when sales are not present.
 
I had a deal like this several months ago. First, I went on the Illinois forum here asking if anyone knew of any sales in Illinois that had this feature. I received some excellent leads! (tks guys n gal!)

In the end, the sales I used were about 20 miles from the subject, so I figured out what the contributory value of the indoor court was for those sales and applied a percentage adjustment to my deal. My subject was a larger specialty property in a "one-upper" neighborhood so it did have contributory value. If I recall correctly, it was about 2.5% of the value (of $3 million.) which was far less than its cost. But I gotta say, it was a BEAUTIFUL gym. Complete with professional scorebard, equipment room, water bubbler, etc.

Shot in the dark, but have any Milwaukee Bucks player's homes recently sold? Maybe they had an indoor court. I called a few Realtors and one gave me a lead on a former White Sox player who had a sport court of some kind too.
 
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Dennis, I don't know where you are in WI or what market segment you're looking at, but here's the MLS #s for a couple of indoor sport/basketball comps and an indoor pool comp. With some serious paired sales analysis maybe you can figure out what these amenities contributed in these circumstances and compare those figures to the cost of yours. Not an easy or quickly completed task, I know.

718919 Located in Men. Falls. Sold in '06.
648200 Located in Wales. Sold in '04.
952021 Located in Mequon. Sold in '07.

All three sold for $1,500,000+. There is also one in Bristlecone Pines subdivision in Hartland, but I can't seem to put my finger on it at the moment. I'm assuming you have the same MLS as me, because I think it's state wide. Have you tried searching "sport court" or "basketball court" in private or public remarks in MLS in a bunch of different counties?

They are scattered around the Metro Milwaukee area. Basement/indoor pools rooms should be easier to find and are a comparable amenity I think.

Good luck.

Kevin
 
Thanks Kevin, I did a search on the MLS using "basketball" under remarks box and came up with a comparable sale with basement basketball court located in Waukesha County.

Thanks again!
Dennis
 
Based on what you describe, you have a complex assignment. Given that you have no idea as to how to proceed with this assignment, I would think that you would be wise in declaring to the client that you do not have the experience necessary to do the assignment and decline it or follow USPAP and set forth your process to either get assistance or become competent.

Remember that if you don't know how to do it, you must tell the client up front and get their permission to proceed.
 
An identical thread about a full sized indoor court in NJ was posted on the Forum last winter...
 
Isn't that what the OP is trying to do here... or am I missing something? :unsure:

No. USPAP is very clear on what must be done. And getting help from this forum does not comply with USPAP's requirements.

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Prior to accepting an assignment or entering into an agreement to perform any assignment, an appraiser must properly identify the problem to be addressed and have the knowledge and experience to complete the assignment competently; or alternatively, must:

1. disclose the lack of knowledge and/or experience to the client before accepting the assignment;
2. take all steps necessary or appropriate to complete the assignment competently; and
3. describe the lack of knowledge and/or experience and the steps taken to complete the assignment competently in the report.

Comment: Competency applies to factors such as, but not limited to, an appraiser’s familiarity with a specific type of property, a market, a geographic area, or an analytical method. If such a factor is necessary for an appraiser to develop credible assignment results, the appraiser is responsible for having the competency to address that factor or for following the steps outlined above to satisfy this COMPETENCY RULE.
The background and experience of appraisers varies widely, and a lack of knowledge or experience can lead to inaccurate or inappropriate appraisal practice. The COMPETENCY RULE requires an appraiser to have both the knowledge and the experience required to perform a specific appraisal service competently.

The COMPETENCY RULE requires recognition of, and compliance with, laws and regulations that apply to the appraiser or to the assignment.

If an appraiser is offered the opportunity to perform an appraisal service but lacks the necessary knowledge or experience to complete it competently, the appraiser must disclose his or her lack of knowledge or experience to the client before accepting the assignment and then take the necessary or appropriate steps to complete the appraisal service competently. This may be accomplished in various ways, including, but not limited to, personal study by the appraiser, association with an appraiser reasonably believed to have the necessary knowledge or experience, or retention of others who possess the required knowledge or experience.

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Do you have potential buyers of 800 SF B-Ball courts in the subject's market?? You stated comps are non existent. Do you have the needed data to justify any quantifiable value? In my world, the FO would likely be equivalent to the cost.
 
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