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Laundry In Enclosed Porch

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Debra

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Greetings!

I'm working on USDA that has the washer/dryer in the enclosed porch right off of the Kitchen. Question is does the report need to be made subject-to washer/dryer moved to heated area or heating/cooling added to the enclosed porch or what? Thanks!
 

Tom4value

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No.
1st, w/d are not real estate. They are personal items.
2nd, w/d Are not required items, like a stove.
3rd, many w/d are located in basements, which are not heated areas anyway.
 

GA Benny

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PER FHA HANDBOOK 4000.1

The Appraiser must notify the Mortgagee of the deficiency of MPR or MPS if the permanently installed heating system does not:


• automatically heat the living areas of the house to a minimum of 50 degrees Fahrenheit in all GLAs, as well as in non-GLAs containing building or system components subject to failure or damage due to freezing;

• provide healthful and comfortable heat or is not safe to operate;

• rely upon a fuel source that is readily obtainable within the subject’s geographic area;

• have market acceptance within the subject’s marketplace; and

• operate without human intervention for extended periods of time.
 

Mr Rex

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Greetings!

I'm working on USDA that has the washer/dryer in the enclosed porch right off of the Kitchen. Question is does the report need to be made subject-to washer/dryer moved to heated area or heating/cooling added to the enclosed porch or what? Thanks!

The question is will the heating and cooling keep the area above 50 degrees with leaving the door open to the living area?
 

GA Benny

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I would assume it really depends if the plumbing is exposed beyond just a typical outdoor spicket. In a lot of southern states, as well as southwestern states where it is unusual to have temperatures consistently below freezing, this may be less of a concern. Tennessee, where the original poster is located, I don't know, may be a judgment call, particularly if the "enclosed porch" is insulated. A lot of factors to consider actually.
 

David S. Roberson

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Good point; is a washer/dryer a building or system component? I don't think so. A lot of houses built in the 60's & 70's here have laundy areas off carports that are enclosed, but not connected to the residence, or separated by a wall so there is no interior access to the house. These areas are not typically heated.
 

timd354

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Good point; is a washer/dryer a building or system component?
Agreed, those items are personal property. The question is whether or not there is room for and connections for a washer or dryer within the actual main part of the house (or basement) and if not, whether that is considered to be a deficiency that would affect value/marketability in that market...in any case it is not a MPR
 

Mr Rex

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The plumbing supply & waste lines to the washer are a building component that is part of a necessary system.
 
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