David C. Johnson
Senior Member
- Joined
- Jan 15, 2002
Now, where was it I heard of this fine group before?
Regards,
David C. Johnson, Raleigh
NC State-Certified General R.E. Appraiser
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http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0106/14/a3.html
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Thanks, Wayne.
Forum,
After some thought, I believe the best way to handle newspaper articles is for the poster / "postee" to Write a Summary of the Article in their own words and include it along with the hyperlinked URL in the post without including the actual test of the article. Also, including some well chosen "search words" based on the text of the article may be a good idea.
We all understand the rationale for wishing to include the actual text of an article in one's post. URL address are often changed or disconnected. Then, someone reading the post does not get to read the article. That's irritating.
We also understand that while newspapers generally appreciate the additional exposure, they cannot allow individual members of the public to make such decisions for them on their own, so the copyright law remains as it is regardless of whether it is counterproductive for the paper or not.
Yes, another way to go about it is to contact the newspaper itself to get permission to post the text of the article, but this can be time consuming, and to add insult to injury, it will cost you a minimum of $25 dollars, but often more (mainly for their time in processing the request).
I have gone through this before: www.boardwatch.org/htmfiles/NewsObserver.htm . It took several telephone calls over several days followed-up with another wait while they checked out the venue where it was to appear after I faxed them an application. After looking at the website, the employee I worked with at the Raleigh News & Observer (and apparently her superiors), were clearly pleased that it was to appear on the site, but it still cost me $25, their lowest rate.
Including a few appropriate search words / terms (including the staff writer's name) in the post will help someone, later on, to locate the actual article itself from the online archives of the paper once the link is no longer valid. If I had more time and inclination, I would include such a summary for this article, and also provide the suggested search words. Maybe later on. Another possibility, but only applicable to advanced forums like this one with the capability to edit posts, is for the original postee to keep tracking the changing URL over time and keep updating the original post.
The thread titled "Mortgage Fraud In NC," with it's URLed article, was started on the same day as this thread. Occurring in Charlotte, NC, which is one of the nation's most important banking cities, that story is probably of more importance to us all. According to the FBI, it is reported to be the country's largest mortgage fraud case ever.
By the way, while it is lengthy, a very careful reading (i.e., a little "reading between the lines") of the hyperlinked newspaper article cited above from Boardwatch will provide about all one needs to know -- in a nutshell -- about why several of our state appraisal boards are in the mess they are in. For an even smaller nutshell, remember this: "Just follow the money."
One more "by the way." Near the end of that article, for those who have not read it already, you will read of an alleged bribery case (with the NC Board of Transportation) where the prospective board member raised total hell -- out loud and in public -- when his $30,000 was taken, but he did not get his board seat in return. The DA's case was greatly weakened when someone explained to the idiot-board-member-wannabe that if he was successful in "making his case" to the DA, that he would be guilty of attempted bribery!
His $30,000 was promptly returned.
Hunt was a very good governor overall, but man did he and/or his staff royally screw-up some of our state boards! The answer to many or most of the nation's state board problems is Campaign Finance Reform!
dcj</span>
Regards,
David C. Johnson, Raleigh
NC State-Certified General R.E. Appraiser
___________________________________
http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0106/14/a3.html
<mod edit>
Note to poster: Please do not copy and paste articles here from other sites since they are copyrighted. Instead leave a link to the other site. You left a link but also copied and pasted the article so that portion was removed. If you want to copy and paste an article from other sites here, please get permission from the other site first and include the permission in your post.
</end of mod edit>Forum,
___________________________
<span style='color:darkred'>
Thanks, Wayne.
Forum,
After some thought, I believe the best way to handle newspaper articles is for the poster / "postee" to Write a Summary of the Article in their own words and include it along with the hyperlinked URL in the post without including the actual test of the article. Also, including some well chosen "search words" based on the text of the article may be a good idea.
We all understand the rationale for wishing to include the actual text of an article in one's post. URL address are often changed or disconnected. Then, someone reading the post does not get to read the article. That's irritating.
We also understand that while newspapers generally appreciate the additional exposure, they cannot allow individual members of the public to make such decisions for them on their own, so the copyright law remains as it is regardless of whether it is counterproductive for the paper or not.
Yes, another way to go about it is to contact the newspaper itself to get permission to post the text of the article, but this can be time consuming, and to add insult to injury, it will cost you a minimum of $25 dollars, but often more (mainly for their time in processing the request).
I have gone through this before: www.boardwatch.org/htmfiles/NewsObserver.htm . It took several telephone calls over several days followed-up with another wait while they checked out the venue where it was to appear after I faxed them an application. After looking at the website, the employee I worked with at the Raleigh News & Observer (and apparently her superiors), were clearly pleased that it was to appear on the site, but it still cost me $25, their lowest rate.
Including a few appropriate search words / terms (including the staff writer's name) in the post will help someone, later on, to locate the actual article itself from the online archives of the paper once the link is no longer valid. If I had more time and inclination, I would include such a summary for this article, and also provide the suggested search words. Maybe later on. Another possibility, but only applicable to advanced forums like this one with the capability to edit posts, is for the original postee to keep tracking the changing URL over time and keep updating the original post.
The thread titled "Mortgage Fraud In NC," with it's URLed article, was started on the same day as this thread. Occurring in Charlotte, NC, which is one of the nation's most important banking cities, that story is probably of more importance to us all. According to the FBI, it is reported to be the country's largest mortgage fraud case ever.
By the way, while it is lengthy, a very careful reading (i.e., a little "reading between the lines") of the hyperlinked newspaper article cited above from Boardwatch will provide about all one needs to know -- in a nutshell -- about why several of our state appraisal boards are in the mess they are in. For an even smaller nutshell, remember this: "Just follow the money."
One more "by the way." Near the end of that article, for those who have not read it already, you will read of an alleged bribery case (with the NC Board of Transportation) where the prospective board member raised total hell -- out loud and in public -- when his $30,000 was taken, but he did not get his board seat in return. The DA's case was greatly weakened when someone explained to the idiot-board-member-wannabe that if he was successful in "making his case" to the DA, that he would be guilty of attempted bribery!
His $30,000 was promptly returned.
Hunt was a very good governor overall, but man did he and/or his staff royally screw-up some of our state boards! The answer to many or most of the nation's state board problems is Campaign Finance Reform!
dcj</span>