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TAF in Full Damage Control

Eli

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Hell, the plumbers association is better than appraisers.
 

Eli

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I welcome the reasons for differences in appraisal profession and all other professions. I would love to hear them.
 

alebrewer

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And yes, I most definitely can hold appraisers accountable for lying, cheating, stealing, mischaracterizing, making factual errors, choosing wierdo methodologies and inconsistencies.
That is a great start. Look, insofar as the meat of an appraiser's analysis consists of 'opinions', then I'd submit that 'opinions' cannot be quantitatively measured - insofar as they are, at the end of the day, opinions and not fact. I agree that unfactual information, or inconsistent analysis is easily identified. I guess the more challenging question - and possibly the answer to which may not be found in USPAP - is, how do we (the appraisal profession) generate positive perception in the quality of our services? How do we profitably assert that appraisals are inherently more 'accurate' than AVM's or BPO's? Or are they? If we can't even agree on how to measure quality, how do we expect other folks (users of our services) to perceive the value of that 'quality'? I think, possibly, the 'root' of the animosity expressed toward TAF, or Mr. Bunton, isn't really about the salary - it's about their round table in their ivory tower, and the perception that they pander to the regulators and financial industry - at the expense of the appraiser. I think that, what folks are looking for, is some entity that is willing to advocate for appraisers - and for that 'quality' that we all believe is there, but that no one appears to be championing...
 

Eli

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That is a great start. Look, insofar as the meat of an appraiser's analysis consists of 'opinions', then I'd submit that 'opinions' cannot be quantitatively measured - insofar as they are, at the end of the day, opinions and not fact. I agree that unfactual information, or inconsistent analysis is easily identified. I guess the more challenging question - and possibly the answer to which may not be found in USPAP - is, how do we (the appraisal profession) generate positive perception in the quality of our services? How do we profitably assert that appraisals are inherently more 'accurate' than AVM's or BPO's? Or are they? If we can't even agree on how to measure quality, how do we expect other folks (users of our services) to perceive the value of that 'quality'? I think, possibly, the 'root' of the animosity expressed toward TAF, or Mr. Bunton, isn't really about the salary - it's about their round table in their ivory tower, and the perception that they pander to the regulators and financial industry - at the expense of the appraiser. I think that, what folks are looking for, is some entity that is willing to advocate for appraisers - and for that 'quality' that we all believe is there, but that no one appears to be championing...

Your reasoning is good, but your argument is almost ivory tower too. That's not how it works. Your an appraiser. I deal with buyers and sellers every day. And real estate agents who are very skilled. Many don't understand the appraisal process because they are not professionals in the appraisal field and don't understand the process.
 

Eli

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The real estate agents who are also appraisers understand.
 

Eli

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Ok, the problem has nothing to do with salary. The problem is with the structure of the professional organization compared to other professional organizations and outside influences. I can keep preaching.
 

alebrewer

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Ok, the problem has nothing to do with salary. The problem is with the structure of the professional organization compared to other professional organizations and outside influences. I can keep preaching.
I don't know about how good, or bad, other professional organizations are, but I think everyone (at least those who've opined herein) would agree with that statement... And I think you and I both have offered 'alternative' appraiser organizations as potential solutions. To a prior post, however, is it possible for a group like NAA to: (a) get large and cohesive enough to actually be able to implement positive change without (b) succumbing to the dark hole that is Washington DC? I know the AI and CRN weren't able to do so...
 

Eli

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Oligopsony. Why do you think many AMC's want separation of fees? they don't want what's coming on antitrust law.
 
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