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Charles West

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I've known about this problem at one of my rentals for sometime now. Wrote a letter to the neighbor in question back in 2018 and so far crickets. The problem is three mature redwood trees (maybe 70' tall) border my property and the roots are lifting my driveway and no doubt will begin lifting the garage foundation in short order. I dropped the hammer last week and got a attorney on it to the tune of $3,750 for the retainer. This year has been a doozy to put it mildly for rental property expense. I was wondering if anybody else has tree stories? I'm braced for the phone book.
 

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Elliott

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I'm not a lawyer, barely an appraiser. But I recall in some class I took that if the tree branch was on your side of the fence and there were oranges, you got the oranges. Now with all the new environmental and woke judicial decisions, maybe you have to give the oranges back to the owner, but I guessing you have a right to cut the roots (like I said, not giving legal advice). From time to time a owner would complain about trees blocking view or someone killing trees and "copper nails" were mentioned.
 

Mark K

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At one time I had 19 units in 12 properties, mix of duplexes and SFR. Too may stories, most of which I've been lucky enough to forget.

Residential rentals...started buying in 1980, sold them all in 2004-2006, just before the crash. They were a great investment and I'm glad I did it. Also glad I got rid of them.

My only tree story was a large old Maple tree (about 3' dia.) located between the sidewalk and the curb at the street. Big wind blew it over and crushed a neighbors car and blocked the street. I got out my survey and verified that my property stopped at the house side of the sidewalk. When neighbor called and the Town insisted that I move the tree, I just told them that it wasn't on my property, on the Town's right of way. Never heard again from neighbor and after a few more calls from the Town threatening me (why me, I don't own the tree or land, you do) they finally came and cut it up and hauled it away after it blocked the street for 4 days.
 

Bobby Bucks

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Forgive me for changing the topic, but I recall that one must be careful when cleaning sewer drain lines with cleaning products, sometimes those chemicals eliminate more than the roots. You probably don’t have a sewer drain near that driveway, but in case you ever install one, you’ll certainly want it to be free of roots…….and trees. Copper nails and salt don’t like trees that trespass. :cool:
 

Tom D

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i see this in many row home little back yards. when they planted that little tree they never took into account what it would be grown up.
the only way to cure is to take the tree down. damaging the roots will probable cause it to stress out, die slowly, then fall on your house for revenge.
 

Terrel L. Shields

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Saw the root off (quietly while the neighbor is gone.) Simple solution. Or, expose a chunk... the root and inject some undiluted Roundup in it... problem solved for much less than a lawyer. "Oh, sorry about your tree, bro...it looks like it is dying."
 

Charles West

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The problem with redwood trees is they are surface rooted so if cut the roots on my side the tree will become unstable and potentially fall on the house. These babies would go right just about anything they land on. Frightening to think about what each one weighs. Rather sue the s**t out of the owner and the owner's insurance company.
 

Elliott

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Saw the root off (quietly while the neighbor is gone.) Simple solution. Or, expose a chunk... the root and inject some undiluted Roundup in it... problem solved for much less than a lawyer. "Oh, sorry about your tree, bro...it looks like it is dying."



I have an acre of old growth cedar and when the really old ones topple the roots aren't more than a couple of feet.

"Sharon Sampson
, Landscape Architect, 3X Master Gardener, Exercise Specialist
Answered February 2


Roots of most plants, 95 +/- % are only within the top 4 t 6 inches of the surface. Roots need O2 and water and assorted chemistry with which to do their job. Any roots that are deeper are meant for support.

Redwood tree roots are normal, in other words shallow. But they grow the roots wider and literally connect roots with other fellow Redwood Trees to form trunk strength for wind resistance.

Redwood roots are 2 to 3 feet deep depending on soil conditions. For their size, this is shallow."
 

Charles West

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Just taking a stab at the diameter of the root mass I'd guess maybe 50 to 60 feet. The closest trunk to my driveway is about seven to eight feet away and the heaving is across the width of the driveway as far as I can tell and is lifting the driveway in multiple locations most recently at the garage slab/driveway intersection. Real disaster. Three trees six or seven foot diameter is going to cost big bucks out here in the socialist paradise.
 

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Mark K

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Forgive me for changing the topic, but I recall that one must be careful when cleaning sewer drain lines with cleaning products, sometimes those chemicals eliminate more than the roots. You probably don’t have a sewer drain near that driveway, but in case you ever install one, you’ll certainly want it to be free of roots…….and trees. Copper nails and salt don’t like trees that trespass. :cool:

Tordon and Spike are two ways that work very well at killing trees. So yeah, be careful not to use around a neighbors encroaching tree.
 
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