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Stephen J. Vertin MAI

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What is the best color printer for the price? My first post in the tech section. I figured I would come in here and see tons of post on printers. My HP Deskjet 1600CM finally died. After 7 years, paper is starting to jam right at the heat bar. Than the check paper signal starts flashing on the front panel. Funny thing is the test printer page prints fine. Anyone seen this problem with this series?
 

Jo Ann Meyer Stratton

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Stephen:

Check out the HP2200, which would be today's version of your 1600. I bought one a year ago for about $500 and it is working just fine. Ben V. even has a IV nethod of delivering ink to his. But so far a cartridge of each collor lasts me about 3 months (pdf emails to clients has been a big help). My is noisy, but otherwise no problems.
 

Dan Leggett

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I've used the 1600 since '95 and it's still cranking right along. A friend gave me theirs for spare parts because it was doing what you said yours is doing. The inside was full of paper lint, sizeable pieces of paper remnants, and ink residue.

For no other reason than I am hardheaded I decided to try to fix the spare one before scrapping it. LOTS of tricky disassembly required, but I cleaned EVERYTHING that paper touched with clean cotton shop rags and rubbing alcolhol. I also took lots of digital photos, hand written notes, & sketches along the way to refer to while re-assembling, but I did get it to running as good as new. To the best of my recollection it took about 6 hours total bench time. Now if I could just get my HP IIP back in operation .....
 

Mountain Man

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Got a Cannon S600 about 8 months ago, can be had today for around $200. Prints good, quite, and fast (as long as it is on the low setting). The reason I bought it was because it had individual color cartridges, and the low cost of the cartridges. Just shop around. Those things change, and become old news, faster than the articles can be written for reviews. But, check out what PC Magazine.com has.

Mell.

http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1470...0&a=5166,00.asp

Hmm, the url didn't work. Just cut and paste it.
 

Richard Carlsen

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The HP 2200 is a workhorse but like any other inkjet, the controlling word is "ink". I had a 2000 for 3 years and it gave up the ghost. Bought a 2200 and am just as pleased with it. At under $500, it is stable, dependable with good tech backup.

Depending on the number of reports you run per year, inkjet is probibly the way to go in a one person operation. More than that in an office and you might want to spend the dollars for a laser.

One thing to bear in mind is electronic transmission. Already this year, I am seeing an increase over last year of the number of lenders who will take .pdf. This means every time I do that, it is 2 less reports to print. We had considered going laser but I'll be willing to bet in 2 years, most of my reports will go over the Internet. There will then be less demand on my printer. We've decided to stay with the inkjet and at under $500, the HP2200 is hard to beat.
 

xmrdfghap

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<span style='color:brown'>Stephen, what kind of reports are you preparing?

I have used Epsons for several years and found them to be very reliable and provide good color reproduction. And they are generally cheap. Less than $150 for one and it lasts for 4 or 5 years. I am not sure I want one to last much longer than that as technology changes so fast and the cartidges that were $10.00 whe the printer was popular become $30.00 when they quit turning over in the store. Epsons also are easily refillable and do not expire. My current cartridges have been in the printer for a year and a half.

Inkjets are far faster than lasers, but the ink is water soluble so it runs if it gets a bit wet. I don't know if you have had that problem but it is an annoyance when it happens.

I have begun charging for printed copies to new customers. I put page numbers on all my reports (I had pages removed by LO's in the past) with the page numbers reading "Page x of zzz" which allows me to prepare TWO pdf files.......one file consists of the B&W pages, one file is the color pages. The night guys at Kinkos are friends of mine, so when I e-mail the two files they print them (B&W @$.10 per page, Color @ $1.00 per page), assembles them, binds them, and has them in an envelope ready for me to deliver or mail.....there is a FedEx/UPS station in there so I come in, review my work (I always proofread the report the next day), and mail it. A URAR normally costs me between $3.00 and $5.00 per copy. A 100 page narrative will run about $15.00.

I charge $15.00 for two copies of a URAR and additional copies printed at the same time are $5.00 each. Copies printed at a later time are $10.00 set up and $5.00 per copy.

This keeps me from having a big, high speed color printer (I almost bought one a year ago for $950), plus a copy machine, a binding machine (and several sizes of the binders, covers, etc), work table, office space for all the above, maintainence, spare cartridges, and a printer that breaks down on me at midnight when I have to get a report delivered by 9:00AM. I also don't have to spend a lot of idle time waiting for the report to complete the printing cycle.....don't you hate it when a piece of paper jams and you get the entire page printed on one line?

I calculated that the $1,500 I would have invested in printing would be better invested in my retirement and the printing costs can be borne by the customer. They are the ones who insisted I do pdf. Now that I have done that, they can either accept pdf or pay for printing. My time spent at Kinkos is consumed by 1) reading the finished product, in a nice chair, with a cup of fresh coffee; 2) Filling out the delivery slip.........so I do not consider it much out of my way and I don't have to hang out in the office waiting for the printer to mess up.</span>
 

Jack Campbell

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Are you talking about color lasers or something?

My HP K80 inkjet prints medium quality black at about 6.5 pages per minute, while my HP Laserjet 2200d prints good quality at 19 ppm.

I direct my color pages to the K80 and my B&W to the LJ2200. In a typical URAR, the LJ will print all the B&W pages out in about 40 seconds.

Fortunately, about 80% of my work for the last 2 years has been via pdf.
I just print out the main pages for my own office copy and keep the signed pdf on several cd-r's as my full office copy.
 

TC

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The HP 2200 has been a workhorse for me with no problems. That is the printer that I recommend to all my clients now that I am sending everything PDF. I haven't bought an ink cart in 3 months.

tc
 

Mountain Man

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Goodpasture,

Inkjets are far faster than lasers, but the ink is water soluble so it runs if it gets a bit wet. I don't know if you have had that problem but it is an annoyance when it happens.
Cannon offers a smear & water proof ink for inkjets, I think Epson does too. Although, it does cost a few buck more per cartridge, which I am not willing to pay.

I almost bought one a year ago for $950
I agree, wayyy to much $$. Better in IRA, or for a vacation, or new power tools. :D

My current cartridges have been in the printer for a year and a half.
HOW!??? Do you not print one for files? Do you not allow other family to print? I must learn this trick.

Mell.
 

Rick Hess

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Ok, label me ignorant :oops:
What do the acronyms pdf and edi stand for. I figure something to do with emailing, but not 100%. Good info on printers tonight. Thanks.
Brick :)
 
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