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Improper appointments to the NCAB.again

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Bob Ipock

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The NCAB has increased from 7 to 9 members. The Speaker of the NC Houses gets a new one as does as the President pr-tem of the NC Senate.

Senator Marc Basnight has made 2 more improper appointments to the NCAB

Henry Faircloth (appointed and reappointed since 1991) a general contractor and developer

and

Sidney Jessup (new appointment) a real estate investor and real estate investor.


Neither Faircloth nor Jessup meet the statutory requirement as they are BOTH involved in employment activities DIRECTLY related to the real estate industry.

If they want to change to law for these "public" appointments then so be it. Until then, the statute needs to be adhered to.



§ 93E-1-5. Appraisal Board.


The appointees recommended by the
President Pro Tempore of the Senate shall be a person not involved directly or indirectly in the
real estate, real estate appraisal, or the real estate lending industry.
 
I agree whole heartedly with you. In ND the 'chair' was appointed without any notice to a vacancy in 1992, the ag appraiser on the board has been there since 1997, the newest appraiser member for just a few years but she appears to have no backbone and just follows the chairs actions. The banker member has been there waaaay too long and has been considered a biased member (at least in my opinion) and the public member seems to be a nice enough fellow, an attorney, who doesn't seem to be too active or do too much of anything.

The ND board members are there for as long as they want to be and can't seem to understand the fact they have become a very biased board.
 
Appointments

I contacted Basnight's office and was told they had a letter from the Attorney General saying Faircloth's appointment was legal and did not violate the law. They also are expecting a similar letter regarding Jessup. If that is the case, how can anyone say that the appointment is not legal?

How can anyone not be "involved in the real estate industry"? I own rental property. Guess I would not be eligible. What about an electrician or a plumber? I looked at the law and I don't read it the way you do.

Whether or not someone should be on a board since 1991 is another question. I did not see any term limits in the law.
 
My opinion is that the obvious intent of the law is to have 2 of 9 members come form the general public. A school teacher, insurance salesperson, car dealer, retired person, minister etc. If that was not the intent.....then why have a distinction for these "public members". Why not just have 9 appraiser members?

I would say that someone with rental property would not meet the statute....you may have a bias for or against appraisers. If you have many rental properties you would certainly have some opinions about the appraisers you have dealt with.

They can change the law if they want but as of now it is what it is.

Walk out on the street and ask the first 10 people you see if a licensed general contractor/developer and a real estate attorney/real estate investor are directly, indirectly or not at all involved in the real estate industry. I know that by far the most frequent answer will be.....directly involved.

Both of these appointees are very likely to deal with appraisers on a regular basis in the normal course of their business. This is not about them personally but about their connection to the real estate industry. There are thousands of better choices available.
 
N.C. General Statute 120-85 (PDF) Legislative Ethics Act, Code of Ethics

http://www.ethicscommission.nc.gov/colaws.htm

§ 120-102. Powers and duties of Committee.
(a) In addition to the other powers and duties specified in this Article, the
Committee may:
(1) (4) Repealed by Session Laws 2006-201, s. 10, effective January 1,
2007.
(5) Prepare a list of ethical principles and guidelines to be used by
legislators and legislative employees to identify potential conflicts of
interest and prohibited behavior, and to suggest rules of conduct that
shall be adhered to by legislators and legislative employees.


(5a) Advise each General Assembly committee of specific danger areas
where conflicts of interest may exist and to suggest rules of conduct that
should be adhered to by committee members in order to avoid conflict.
_________


Opinion:

"The appointees recommended by the
President Pro Tempore of the Senate shall be a person not involved directly or indirectly in the
real estate, real estate appraisal, or the real estate lending industry."

ETHICS VIOLATION
 
Complaints & Inquiries
One of the primary purposes of the State Government Ethics Act (“Ethics Act”) is to ensure that “violations of standards of ethical conduct and conflicts of interest are properly addressed.” The Ethics Act gives the Commission jurisdiction to conduct inquiries of complaints alleging certain unethical conduct by covered persons and legislative employees.

Anyone may file a signed, sworn complaint against a covered person or legislative employee alleging violations of Chapter 138A, the State Government Ethics Act, or Article 14 of Chapter 120 of the General Statutes, the Legislative Ethics Act. The Commission may also initiate an inquiry on its own motion. Public servants and persons responsible of the appointing, hiring, or supervising of a public servant may initiate an inquiry by filing a written complaint.

If you would like to file a complaint, below are links to the Commission’s complaint form and instructions for completing the form and filing the complaint. Should you have any questions, please contact the Commission’s office at (919) 807-4620 or by e-mail at ethics.commission@doa.nc.gov .
- Instructions
- Form

http://www.ethicscommission.nc.gov/comembers.htm
 
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It seems to me that someone should file a complaint and let the Ethics Commission figure it out. Then the question will be answered.
 
Duhhh. The Ethics Commission is appointed by the very same politicians that don't have any ethics. NOBODY at the AG's office is going to disagree with Sen. Basnight....the most powerful politician in NC. People in state government can be hired and fired without cause and often are. Government employees and appointees don't disagree with elected officials.

By the way, the NCCOB has the same "public member" requirement as the NCAB.

https://www.nccob.org/Online/BRTS/BankCommissionMembers.aspx


Is there no difference between a "Public member" and an industry member? Of course there is and I don't need an ethics board or assistant AG to help me read the statute.
There are good reason to have these "public member" slots on licensing boards. and commissions. There has to be some balance to keep license holding board members from having tunnel vision as to their profession.
 
AG: Basnight appointee meets law's requirementsBy Mitch WeissAssociated Press


The state attorney general's office said Tuesday the appointment of a real estate lawyer to the North Carolina Appraisal Board does not violate a state law that requires the seat be filled by someone not involved in the profession.

Senate leader Marc Basnight's appointment of Sidney Jessup, a lawyer from Kill Devil Hills, to the appraisal board was approved last week. The decision was immediately questioned by critics who believe the board hasn't done enough to protect consumers from rogue appraisers.

The North Carolina Appraisers Act states that seven of the board's nine members are to come from within the real estate industry. But the law says the two recommended by the Senate leader must not be involved in "real estate, real estate appraisal or the real estate lending industry."

Jessup's practice in Dare County includes real estate law. But Basnight staff said a previous opinion from the attorney general's office concluded the seat could be filled by anyone not identified with the appraisal industry - making Jessup eligible for the job.

Following an Associated Press report that the appointment appeared to violate the law's requirements, Basnight's office sought a new opinion from Attorney General Roy Cooper. Special deputy attorney general Thomas Miller wrote to Basnight office's Tuesday and reiterated that Jessup's practice of real estate law doesn't preclude her service.

"She is not a real estate broker, mortgage lender, or real estate appraiser. She has no ownership interest in a real estate brokerage or appraisal business," Miller wrote. He noted that while she owns a farm and "three or four income-producing properties," that also didn't disqualify her from service.

But former House Speaker Harold Brubaker, who helped write the North Carolina Appraisers Act, said the seat is meant to be filled by someone without any ties to the business of buying and selling homes.

"The intent was to bring someone in from the outside who would bring a common sense approach to the law. Sometimes with professional boards, you can have too many professionals," said Brubaker, R-Randolph.

"But if you put someone on from the outside, they'll ask: 'Is this the correct way to proceed? Is this what our purpose is for? We need to look at protecting the consumer.' You need that outside voice. It should be someone with no real estate ties."
In his letter to Basnight's office, Miller wrote that if the General Assembly had wished to exclude attorneys from consideration to the board, "it could have done so."

"The attorney who represents real estate brokers, appraisers and lenders does not himself become directly or indirectly a broker, appraiser or lender," Miller wrote.

Other state agencies involved in real estate also have public seats, including the North Carolina Real Estate Commission. Miriam Baer, a commission spokeswoman, said her agency has nine members and two are public members who cannot be real estate agents.

"They have to be from outside the field. The intention is they represent the public interest rather than someone who is more in the industry itself," she said. "The goal is to help balance out the board."
The North Carolina Appraisal Board was among the subjects detailed in a six-month Associated Press investigation that identified key failings in the nation's regulation of appraisers. The AP's investigation found that since 2005, more than two dozen states and U.S. territories have violated federal rules by failing to investigate and resolve complaints about appraisers within a year.

Some complaints sat without being investigated for as long as four years. As a result, hundreds of appraisers accused of wrongdoing remained in business. Experts told the AP the failings helped contribute to the current crisis in America's housing market.
 
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