Atrium, Living Square footage or not

[Mike Kennedy]

"Yes you can go into the atrium from the main house. It is right in the middle of the floor plan...


"in the middle".?????.......... is not GLA calculated by Exterior Measurement?

post a sketch?? photos?

 

[Jo Ann Meyer Stratton]

For "donut" style homes with an atrium in the middle, I do not include the atrium in livable area. Typically they do not have a roof (after all it wouldn't be an atrium if it did), the walls are the exterior walls of the house, there is no interior finish, some times the floors are gravel or partial concrete, etc. As far as exterior measurements go, those include all exterior walls--including those in the middle of the house!

 

[John Hassler]

Todd

Is this an Eichler home?

I've typically included enclosed atriums as a separate line item on the grid as they are rare heated or finished to the same level as the main home.

 

[Joker]

It's about your Scope of Work. It's your choice as to how you handle it as long as you fully disclose how and why you did it the way you did.

How in the world is this related to scope of work? Do you count garages and porches as living area and consider that appropriate because you say so in your scope of work? Is that appropriate? What would your peers say?m:

 

[PropertyEconomics]

It's about your Scope of Work. It's your choice as to how you handle it as long as you fully disclose how and why you did it the way you did.

Well there goes ANSI standards and every other measureing standard. Seriously you would SCOPE an Atrium as he described it as living area??? :blush:

 

[Otis Key]

It's about your Scope of Work. It's your choice as to how you handle it as long as you fully disclose how and why you did it the way you did.

Say WHAT????????? This hasn't got a thing to do SOW! Maybe you didn't get any...........sleep last night. You're way off track on that one.

 

[CANative]

I think you could go either way. The value of a nice patio is probably about the same as a similar amount of GLA. 12 x 12 atrium, 144 sf x about $35 psf is $5,000. Just explain what you've done. If you're worried about ANSI, then break it out.

Agree with Joyce. Scope of work. FNMA would like this area to not be included in GLA. A private party probably wouldn't care how the appraiser described it.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

I think you could go either way. The value of a nice patio is probably about the same as a similar amount of GLA. 12 x 12 atrium, 144 sf x about $35 psf is $5,000. Just explain what you've done. If you're worried about ANSI, then break it out.

Your kidding me right? The roof is open to the sky and you count it as living area? Please show me the standard that allows you to do that. Lord help me.
Greg .. Did you sleep at a Holidan Inn Express last night????

 

[CANative]

Please show me a "Standard" that sez you can't count it. Not everyone lives or dies by ANSI. Let's talk USPAP.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

Please show me a "Standard" that sez you can't count it. Not everyone lives or dies by ANSI. Let's talk USPAP.

Greg lets talk USPAP. I think your peers, and many will weigh in here soon, will not agree you can Scope an unheated area with no roof into living area. I may be wrong .. but my bets are on that NOT happening.
Scope all you want ... if you put unheated living area into your living area ... I think it is most probably misleading, your SOW not withstanding. Just my guess.

The SOW has nothing to do with you making up square footage. Sorry.