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Is Something Afoot With Lenders?

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Alison Swain

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Just talked to a good contact with an AMC (actually a good one that pays on time and based on scope of work). She said that they normally do 7,000 to 8,000 orders a month. Lately, they're lucky to do 1,000. Every once in a while, I'll go a couple of weeks and not hear from them, so I call in, touch base to prime the pump a little and then the orders start back up. Weird. Anyway, on the call this morning, I spoke with the supervising vendor relations person. She told they haven't had an order for Florida in weeks. While I was on the phone with her she ran through the counties,"Lake....nothing; Seminole.....nothing; Orange.......nothing." She said all of her appraisers are calling and saying, "You're killing me. Can't you send me anything?" She said everyone is speculating about what's going on --- some say that the banks are holding back and not doing anything right now, that maybe they're expecting that the government is about to do something (I don't even know what that means?).

Have we now officially entered the lending Twilight Zone??? :Eyecrazy:
 
Maybe its the bill in Congress for $300 billion to help out all those borrowers that have defaulted, aka lender bail out bill?
 
Maybe it's because NOW you actually need money to buy a home & MOST refi'd during the "BOOM" & can't pay the bills. & less than (I belive I saw in a report) 5% of homeowners have any equity at all & now the loan is 60% of value. With the FHA exception, & so far FHA does NOT use AMC's but I'm sure some Appraiser will suggest that they start doing so.
 
You mean other than the fact many are going bankrupt?
 
Maybe it's because NOW you actually need money to buy a home & MOST refi'd during the "BOOM" & can't pay the bills. & less than (I belive I saw in a report) 5% of homeowners have any equity at all & now the loan is 60% of value. With the FHA exception, & so far FHA does NOT use AMC's but I'm sure some Appraiser will suggest that they start doing so.


Yeah, but I haven't seen an FHA assignment in months either........





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Something is going to happen, I'm just not sure what.

The only semi-consistent work I am getting is from clients who hold their own paper and that do not have a bunch of garbage loans and REOs.
 
Talked to a credit union lender last week and they have many loan applications, however, the borrowers missed or was late on a 1st mortgage payment and this disqualified them for a new loan!!! Lenders are squeezing the noose around many borrowers. One late payment or missed payment is a disaster to many at this time. The pendulum will eventually swing back, just have to hold on for now!
 
This is nothing new... just a simple slip in the old chrono-machine on the Delorean.
Just check your calendar.
Ron Reagan is in the White House,
Paul Volker is Chairman of THE FED,
and today's date is July 1st, 1981
 
Just talked to a good contact with an AMC (actually a good one that pays on time and based on scope of work). She said that they normally do 7,000 to 8,000 orders a month. Lately, they're lucky to do 1,000. Every once in a while, I'll go a couple of weeks and not hear from them, so I call in, touch base to prime the pump a little and then the orders start back up. Weird. Anyway, on the call this morning, I spoke with the supervising vendor relations person. She told they haven't had an order for Florida in weeks. While I was on the phone with her she ran through the counties,"Lake....nothing; Seminole.....nothing; Orange.......nothing." She said all of her appraisers are calling and saying, "You're killing me. Can't you send me anything?" She said everyone is speculating about what's going on --- some say that the banks are holding back and not doing anything right now, that maybe they're expecting that the government is about to do something (I don't even know what that means?).

Have we now officially entered the lending Twilight Zone??? :Eyecrazy:

I don't know - I'm not working for any AMCs, haven't done an AMC job since 1/07. But I find your contact's comments, "Lake....nothing; Seminole.....nothing; Orange.......nothing." VERY hard to believe. But I wouldn't believe the AMC vendor-relations people I know if they told me the sky was blue. I'm working, but granted, my business is way down. I've just made a conscious decision I'm not going to wallow in the mud and I'm pretty much laying the groundwork for an allied career. I'll see what the landscape looks like after the dust settles, after 11/30/08, after I take a look at Florida's dropout rate.

I know this - one AMC calls me from time to time and says they have an order for me and asks if my fees are still $zzz. I say yes and they say they will try to get it "approved" which sounds odd and, of course, I never receive the order. Happened 4-5 times since January. I have heard of one national appraisal sweat-shop in the Orlando area NOT turning down any orders at any price. Fact or fiction I don't know.

I'm taking lots of CE (appraisal and non-appraisal) classes and handing out business cards right and left. In one class of 14 individuals, 2 have commented such that I've determined they own 5 homes between them, 3 of which are rentals that have been vacant for months. Both individuals are talking about just letting them go.

One appraiser I know had 50K in his checking account around 1/07. He stated back then he was confident he had plenty of reserve funds, but he's down to 9K now and is looking at his savings account balances, and how much room he has on his HE loan. Big family - wife and 4 kids.

I know the drop-out is coming. As you know MLS fees were due recently. Paid mine - how do you work without it? But I've had quasi-friends I haven't heard from recently calling and asking for my MLS password and the current code.

So...
 
Mike:

I don't doubt this woman's account of things. I've worked with her for two years and she's always been straight with me. If she says they haven't seen any orders then I believe it.

Also, a good friend of mine has been working for HomeFocus (B of A) since the beginning ot the year. She says the same thing --- the bank has nearly nothing coming through at all. Lake County is doing more than Orange or Seminole --- and that's not saying much with Lake being reeeeeally slow. :shrug:
 
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