New Poll

[Mike Phillips]

Is it that tough to become certified? Easiest test I ever took.


BB

Nothing tough about it. I've taken the Certified exam twice, once in '89 and again in '01 after leaving the business (voluntarily) for nearly 5 years. I went from no license in 5/01 to Certified Residential by 11/01. That includes taking ABI and AB II for the second time. Of course, I had 13 years experience already under my belt.

The hard part appears to be getting one's backside off dead center which is tough to do for any human being when there is no real economic motivation to do so.

I'm not "pot calling the kettle black" - lack of motivation is exactly why I don't have my SRA.

What gets me is you can read posts by Licensed appraisers whining about low fees and having to work for AMCs but is doesn't seem like a damn one of them realize Bobby-Joe Trainee, now with 9 months expereince is about to become their competition in another 3-6 months.

OK, grandfather these folks in, make a deal, compromise, but for goodness sake shut the damn barn door. The AQB finally acted. Certification is the new minimum. Get rid of the Licensed level for good. Make it Trainees and Certifieds only.

 

[Greg Bell]

We are doomed , Licensed appraisers unite!..Where is the nifty little poll bars...

 

[rcsone]

......yesterday I talked with a HUD instructor/appraiser from the Atlanta office and per his information, what will result is being decided by the POWERS currently with no communication of anything.........I tend to think based on little that licensed ones are gone due to the enormous number of near recent joiners.......the other item dis-cussed in the minor is the requirement for a FHA appraisal course of what quality, hours, sponsor, content, qualifying date taken, certification of attendence, etc. and this has not been decided either..........NOW remember all this is to go in effect 10/1/08?????.....so is everyone off the so called Panel due to no proper course taken?????.............I think not.........can they handle personnel and processing-wise 50,000 or some number of credentials between today and 10/1/08?........no.........so what is FHA to do?..............same old same?.......best to all.............rs

 

[TC]

In PA there is no licensed status, you either is or you ain't. Just curious as to why someone would not want to upgrade?

TC

 

[Bama Bayou]

It may not be fair, but here is what I think will happen. FHA will send out a letter reading pretty much like this:

"Effective 10/1/2008 all FHA appraisals must be completed by an appraiser who is certified by the state in which the subject property is located. The FHA roster will be updated and will show as active only state certified appraisers who passed either the 100 question exam administered by Sylvan or the 10 question internet exam. Appraisers currently on the list who do not meet these qualifications will not be removed from the roster but their status will be "inactive". We expect to have a new test ready soon, perhaps by 2011.

We are doing this in order to comply with the congressional directive in the recently passed housing bill. While the bill gives FHA the option to use appraisers who have been certified by a nationally recognized appraisal organization or NRAO, we have come to the conclusion that this option is too cumbersome to implement at this time. We are real busy right now implementing a very complicated mandate from congress, and we just don't have time to slice and dice what constitutes a NRAO. We also don't want to be hauled up in front of the Senate banking committee and explain why we recognize as a NRAO some outfit that certified Tobias The Cat.

Our lawyers have also informed us that requiring FHA appraisers to become members of a private organization may be unconstitutional".

I personally don't think it's fair but I do think that something similar to this will happen.

 

[rcsone]

...ineligible vs. inactive or until meeting criteria?.......nice distinction and most bureaucratic..........also the HUD guy mentioned they were and have been studying markets where there is an unusual distribution in appraisal work per appraiser....... and that delinquency rates by appraiser are being further examined..........I asked him what that probably meant and he said, "nothing" because they do not have enough folks to handle the workload of additional business Congress has provided, let alone supervise much...........and the beat(beatings) go on..........best to all............rs

 

[Bama Bayou]

]...ineligible vs. inactive or until meeting criteria?.[/B]......nice distinction and most bureaucratic..........also the HUD guy mentioned they were and have been studying markets where there is an unusual distribution in appraisal work per appraiser....... and that delinquency rates by appraiser are being further examined..........I asked him what that probably meant and he said, "nothing" because they do not have enough folks to handle the workload of additional business Congress has provided, let alone supervise much...........and the beat(beatings) go on..........best to all............rs

My bold. I don't think it makes much difference. But I doubt they would make someone apply again. The will just tell us to send in the certification and/or test results. Maybe they will do the 10 question internet deal again. Who knows?

I wonder how someone would get an unusual distribution of assignments?

 

[rcsone]

Bama B.....unusual distribution relates to the few wonderfuls who never met a number they could not meet.................but I bet you never have heard of such before......rs

 

[Bama Bayou]

Bama B.....unusual distribution relates to the few wonderfuls who never met a number they could not meet.................but I bet you never have heard of such before......rs

I'm sure "unusual distribution" means comp checkers.

I wish FHA would tell the roster appraisers that comp checks are not allowed. Then follow that up with some phone calls from FHA staff pretending to be a MB asking for one. If you provide it, you get removed from the roster.

 

[Mr Rex]

I'm sure "unusual distribution" means comp checkers.

I wish FHA would tell the roster appraisers that comp checks are not allowed. Then follow that up with some phone calls from FHA staff pretending to be a MB asking for one. If you provide it, you get removed from the roster.

Maybe some state appraisal boards will recognize the damage created by the whole comp check process, label them illegal, and begin a random calling campaign, like random drug checking. The industry is addicted to this self destructive "drug" and there so far has been no intervention. Distribution is a felony in most cases.