Acreage Value

[Ken Tamblyn]

Here is one reality . . .

If itz zoned residential, then any land over 1 acre is wurth nuttin to me . . . becauze I only haves a small mower (Weedwacker to be precision). Maybe you rich appraisurs with a beeg John Dear lawnmowers might be ables to mow 5 to 10 acres. You guyz woods probable pays mores for that acreage, but . . haha. . . you will be spending alls yours times mowing, while I am ables to enjoy my xtra time karefully filling out me 1004MC formz correctuly.

 

[Ken B]

What is scary, Tim, is that someone reading this thread might just look at what is being said and say, "hey, this guy in Washington seems to have some good credentials. What he is saying makes sense and certainly is easier than what I thought I had to do to analyze rural properties. I'll take his advice and just ignore the rest of the tract."

The appraizul world is a scary place.

Stone, that is the danger I perceive.

Apprazur has some writing skills and a stong belief in his opinions, erroneous as they may be. To the inexperienced and/or or unsure reader, he could be convincing. Unfortunately, some readers may be all too willing to accept his comments without verification of their veracity.

He keeps on throwing out that he has more experience than those who would disagree with him. I assume he is speaking of volume of work and/or time in the profession. If this was to be the standard for "correctness" of opinion, one would think that the combined knowledge of those who openly disagree with his assertions would have some meaning. I am sure that, combined, there are multiple hundreds of years of experience trying to educate the poor soul.

Unfortunately, he knows what he knows and that is that. My actual purpose for engaging him in discussion is for the protection of the lurkers who may be mislead by his "teachings."

 

[fifteen]

Your arguments are wholly and totally unconvincing Dave. If you really did have extensive large acreage experience, what I've said would make sense to you. Sorry, not buying it.
I offer opinions that you can take or leave. You guys offer what you think are the facts and try to force it down someones throat. Big difference in our approaches to questions. Who's right? I'd say the ones that aren't trying to force someone to believe them are the ones that are right. After all, if it's the truth it should be readily acceptable, so why are you trying to force it?
As far as my advice being incorrect, that's the kettle calling the pot black. Let the poster decide for themselves, don't try to make up their minds for them. I really don't care what you guys think, I'm not interested in getting to know you. You've offered nothing new in all the time I've been here. It's too bad you guys don't have real jobs to keep you busy. Kind of sad, really.

I notice you guys have a penchant for twisting things too. H&BU of the subject should be reflected in the comparables you choose. All aspects of the subject should be bracketed, tangible and intangible, for the reader and user of the report.

I'm not interested in teaching you anything. I'm addressing your advice, which is incorrect.



Experience actually means nothing. It is what one has done while obtaining that experience that matters.



You've doing nothing to dispell "the law."



What do MAIs have to do with this thread?



No I don't expect you to do my research for me. Just send me the raw data...that's not research...I'll do the rest. You obviously don't have it, so you can't send it to me.



I currently have two assignments sitting on my desk that exceed the acreage mentioned in this thread...nothing new there. I wish I could say more on the matter, but can't due to confidentiality issues. You might want to stick with facts and not erroneous opinions and judgments.

 

[Michigan CG]

............. My actual purpose for engaging him in discussion is for the protection of the lurkers who may be mislead by his "teachings."

That is turning into a full time job.

 

[Ken B]

Yes, it is.

Where is Fred?

 

[The Warrior Monk]

Your arguments are wholly and totally unconvincing Dave. If you really did have extensive large acreage experience, what I've said would make sense to you. Sorry, not buying it.

So, in other words, all markets are like yours. That's why I've I asked you to provide the data. I have never come across anything in the literature or my experience that mirrors what you describe. Provide me with the data that proves your ascertation, and I will admit I am wrong an learned something...and it wouldn't be the first time that I have done it on the forum.

I'd say the ones that aren't trying to force someone to believe them are the ones that are right. After all, if it's the truth it should be readily acceptable, so why are you trying to force it?

Just because someone has a difference of opinion does not mean they are shoving anything down anyone's throat.

Let the poster decide for themselves, don't try to make up their minds for them. I really don't care what you guys think, I'm not interested in getting to know you. You've offered nothing new in all the time I've been here.

Nobody is trying to make up minds for anyone. The posters can decide for themselves. Chances are, though, that they'll agree with those that provide reasonable arguments, rather than the one that don't...especially when the one that doesn't is repeatedly the only one that has the contrary opinion.

t's too bad you guys don't have real jobs to keep you busy. Kind of sad, really.

Kind of funny, too. A lot of people on this forum base their opinions on their limited world view. For example, if you do low-paying assignments, you have to do volume to survive...very little computer BS time available. If you do high-paying assignments, you'll be spending a lot of time in the office writing, near a computer.

I notice you guys have a penchant for twisting things too. H&BU of the subject should be reflected in the comparables you choose. All aspects of the subject should be bracketed, tangible and intangible, for the reader and user of the report.

Who are you kidding? I've repeatedly stated in this thread the necessity of comparing apples with apples...I suspect that is where the problem lies in your arguments.

 

[fifteen]

My teachings? I offer opinions based on my experience anyone can take or leave. My stalkers are now trying to convince readers they're doing a public service !!

I can't help it, you guys are clowns that think because you're designated you're better than everybody else. AMC says you're no better than skippy and you're not proving them wrong with your actions and words.

I'm starting to not trust your credentials. You miss the mark too many times to actually know what you claim to know. Funny how this thread started with a question and it turns into a mob that isn't directing their answers to the original OP. Do they have an agenda? Appears so. Jealousy maybe? Could be. Have fun but don't break your arm slapping yourself on the back. I have work to do. Maybe someday one of you will have the pleasure of reviewing my work and maybe someday I'll review yours. Are you guys all taking turns to see if your head will fit into posts #51 arse? LOL!!

There is no problem with anything I've said as it wasn't said to create a problem, just to offer advice from experience. Take it or leave it but don't compound it all out of proportion for personal amusement. The OP had a serious question that you guys should be addressing and let them take what they think is right for their particular situation from all posts. We don't know his market. We can only offer what we know and hope it helps.

 

[Karl]

Stone, that is the danger I perceive.

Apprazur has some writing skills and a stong belief in his opinions, erroneous as they may be. To the inexperienced and/or or unsure reader, he could be convincing. Unfortunately, some readers may be all too willing to accept his comments without verification of their veracity.

He keeps on throwing out that he has more experience than those who would disagree with him. I assume he is speaking of volume of work and/or time in the profession. If this was to be the standard for "correctness" of opinion, one would think that the combined knowledge of those who openly disagree with his assertions would have some meaning. I am sure that, combined, there are multiple hundreds of years of experience trying to educate the poor soul.

Unfortunately, he knows what he knows and that is that. My actual purpose for engaging him in discussion is for the protection of the lurkers who may be mislead by his "teachings."

IF you looked back over time when many were bashing Trainees I said the problem is many of the older experienced long time in the profession that know how to dazzle the reader with B.S. was more dangerous than the trainees. I think we have found a "Master" of the dazzle with B.S.

 

[JT1974]

SEVENTEEN people telling you that you are wrong....ZERO supporting your insane "theories". Sometimes people should look in the mirror and realize they are not as smart as they think they are.

This kinda reminds me of the old poker saying "If you can't spot the sucker when you sit down at the table, YOU are the sucker."

 

[CANative]

My experience is they're buying the 25 acres with the 15 thrown in for free as most buyers consider it excess land,

Here is the crux of the problem apprazur...

IMO, you need to do some additional reading and studying before proceeding any further.

Highest and Best Use
Market Analysis
Definition of Surplus as opposed to Excess

BTW... Sellers just don't "throw in" 15 free acres. They might discount the entire 40 acres though.