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Are you buying into financials?

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Eli Weiss

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I'm tempting to invest some money in the financials, CITI is up 24% just today and BOA is up 14% it was up 35% last Thursday.

A friend of mine earned 50K on a 100K investment in BOA last week.....and I'm always the bear when it comes to investing in financials....
 
Here is what George Soros has to say, but he chages his mind every week.

Soros: "Danger of Collapse Has Passed," But Stock Rally Not Sustainable

Posted Apr 07, 2009 09:12am EDT by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers, Recession, Banking Related: ^DJI, ^GSPC, XLF


"The real danger of collapse has passed," says legendary financier George Soros. But the "fallout of the collapse" of the banking system "will linger."

In the wake of Lehman Brothers' bankruptcy on Sept. 15, 2008, authorities were forced to put the financial system remains on "artificial life support, which is where it is now," says Soros, the chairman of Soros Fund Management and author of several books, including most recently The Crash of 2008 and What It Means.

As a result, the billionaire speculator says the stock market's recent rally is doomed to fail. "Now we will face reality," he says, referring to a belief policymakers "did not succeed in recapitalizing the banks to the point where they can lend freely." He added, "talk of zombie banks – unfortunately that's where we are now," Soros says. "Instead of providing lifeblood of credit, [banks] are effectively drawing the lifeblood of activity of profit to themselves."

That, in turn, will keep the economy from producing anything more than a fleeting bounce for the foreseeable future, says Soros, in this first part of our extensive interview.

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...-Rally-Not-Sustainable?tickers=^DJI,^GSPC,XLF
 
The butchers are just now sharpening their tools of trade for the easily led lambs. Soon you will hear the cries of the slaughter.

Again, they are only cheer-leading to pump up the stocks. Are they not exposing about their massive Alt-A's, Primes, Commercial paper, recent FHA can't-pay-back refi's, and other special financing packages on thier books? They are juicing up their accounting books to look like the greatest lipstick on a pig? RUN!
 
As of this pm, have made a net return of 27.40% for three months. But you have to be able to hold on to the stocks you are buying for 4-5 years. Some of the companies I bought include most of the banks/insurances in the TARP money, FNMA etc. Still not a bad time to buy into it right now.
 
The butchers are just now sharpening their tools of trade for the easily led lambs. Soon you will hear the cries of the slaughter.

Again, they are only cheer-leading to pump up the stocks. Are they not exposing about their massive Alt-A's, Primes, Commercial paper, recent FHA can't-pay-back refi's, and other special financing packages on thier books? They are juicing up their accounting books to look like the greatest lipstick on a pig? RUN!

This reflects my attitude. Most of the large lenders are currently in existence simply because the government has allowed, and continues to allow,them to exist. Losses are significant, and will likely get worse. Bank stocks can go up as long as losses appear to be off the books, otherwise they will dive.
 
While all this might be true for the long run, as a day trader, what do you guys think of a quick dip, for a week or so, any potential there is some equity left to pull?
 
I think C (Citicorp) was up huge after hours today. last i looked it was up $1.15 for the day. FAS and UYG have been doing pretty well lately (both are exchange traded funds). you just have to be nimble if you're into trading. Many of the financials are up quite a bit but will probably pull back some pretty soon.
 
Great day trading..Dead cat bounces will be abundant for the next few months and then boom , the next leg down , so don't get caught with rest of the long term chumps..(See 1933)...
 
I think a better play might be FAZ -- if this is a bear trap,
as I believe it is, FAZ is a 3x negative on the financials.
 
Financials and autos should be 'great' trading vehicles. As a long term buy, nada.

I am not a day trader so I eschew buying them. Risk is low however because Uncle Obama gonna bail 'em out..except GM which will (of course) deep six your stock...short GM to zero. Likewise, I think the builders are a dang poor investment.

I get this uneasy feeling that folks think that once we "hit bottom" and have a "bear market rally" then dip and don't go below the November and March lows....then we are ready for the "new Bull Market" and they think that automatically means stocks will take off in a tizzy right across the board - financials, cylicals, energy, technology, you name it... I think there is a high risk that the market could go sideways for a decade just like the depression.
 
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