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Verifying Sales With a Realtor

Do you verify/confirm sales with Realtors and/or buyer/seller?

  • I verify/confirm sale comparables with a party involved in the transaction (Realtor/buyer/seller).

    Votes: 56 56.0%
  • I do not verify/confirm sales with a party involved in the transaction (Realtors/Buyers/Sellers).

    Votes: 23 23.0%
  • Flawed poll/dumb question/poll creator is an idiot/etc.

    Votes: 21 21.0%

  • Total voters
    100
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I'm with Lloyd. The last sale appraisal I did the realtor wouldn't talk to me, said that all appraisers do is kill his deals. Did the report and checked back on the MLS about 45 days later - the listing was cancelled. Guess I killed another one!!!!
 
Lloyd... looks like you da Man!

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When I'm given an assignment, before I even accept it, I perform a preliminary search of the subject, its MLS and PR data, and any potential comps to help determine my bid or to counter on the offered fee. I retain this search and if I accept the assignment, I then call up the comps in the MLS and send verification emails to both sides of the transaction.

My response rate is 70% to 80%, much higher than if I call and leave messages in the agents' voice mail (50%). It is also much faster. One in 10 agents will call me back in response to the email but most answer the same 6 to 10 questions I pose of every agent just py hitting the reply button and typing in their answers.

I email requests for verification before I set the appointment. I set appointments two days or more out so by the time I look at the subject, most of my verifications are back. Those that have not been so verified, I stop and knock on the door to speak with the buyer. Someone is usually only home half the time but from a given field of comps (between 6 & 10) I have a 90% response rate in total.

The failure to obtain verification does not preclude the use of a comp but depending upon how it fits with the other sales, I may give it less weight.

I am much more successful in obtaining info via email than by phone. Doing it this way gives me a paper trail to establish my actions in performance of my SOW.

One can get by for years without ever verifying comps as is obvious from the discussion in the other thread. I suspect plenty on this forum don't verify ever, and even more who never make their way to this forum.

The question to ask is "if one can skate by without verifying, why do it?" Afterall, verification takes time, given the fees and turn time requirements for most mortgage work, I well understand why so many people give it a pass.

The reason you verify, however, is because it is part of your ethical and legal obligation per, USPAP Standards Rule 1-4, and per the pre-printed SOW work in most FNMA forms. You are required to do it!

Secondly, aside from what the above sources require, verification adds credibility to your data, to your analysis, and to your final conclusions of value. Basing an opinion on verified data is the difference between basing an opinion on facts versus hearsay. That's the effect verification has on the witness stand, and it has the same effect in the minds of most informed appraisal users. (Notice I say "informed", which precludes most AMC employees.)

There are plenty of appraisal users that do not understand the significance of verification to the credibility of the reports they order. The lack of verfication often isn't established until something has gone south in their loan portfolio which causes close scrutiny of the entire underwriting package. These are the users that rely on AMC services but also many others.

There are also many, perhaps a majority, of appraisers who possess the same ignorance regarding verification. In the FWIW department, it has always been this way as far as I can tell.

I can observe that those who regularly verify data conduct business differently than most. Their volume of work is generally lower, and takes longer to turn. Their clients don't seem to mind, however as they value quality more than expedience. They often have reputations for producing buttoned down reports. Their fees are at the higher end of the range for their work product.
 
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If the listing has interior pictures, is properly filled out, and I see nothing that doesn't seem right, I may not call the broker. That's rare though, I usually have a question.
 
I have found on more than one occasion where the interior photos were the same in multiple listings and I am not talking about a new construction model.
The agent had an assistant input the info and the assistant used the wrong photos. You would be surprised how many times a listing agent never even looks at their own listings in the MLS system or just looks at the print out sheet not the interior supplemental photos.
 
The URAR has two lines at the top of the grid: one for the source of data; the one beneath is for the source of the verification.

Riddle me this, if the source of the data is listed as "MLS" on the top line, what does one put for its verification source on the second line? Certainly not "MLS". Than what?

If one cites public record data, Realist or similar "source" date on the first line, what do they put on the second line.

From what source, and by what verification can one learn: was the sale arms length; what was the seller's motivation; were there any unusual terms and conditions that were not disclosed in the MLS?
 
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I've learned so many things by calling the selling agent(s) that I cannot imagine not calling now.

Not just about the comparable property, but also the area, competing areas, what buyers are asking for in the current environment, etc.
 
The URAR has two lines at the top of the grid: one for the source of data; the one beneath is for the source of the verification.

Riddle me this, if the source of the data is listed as "MLS" on the top line, what does one put for its verification source on the second line? Certainly not "MLS". Than what?

If one sites public record data, Realist or similar "source" date on the first line, what do they put on the second line.

On the source, I put: MLS/Realist/NDC Data, or if I speak with one of the agents, I'll put Agent/MLS/Realist/NDC Data.

For the 2nd line, (verification), I'll give the Assessor's Document # or Recording #.

I like your email idea, because when you get an agent on their mobile phone, they sometimes don't have a good recollection of the details / concessions, or else they just guess.
 
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