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..................................................................................................................................................... So we should NOT use excellent comps just because there were trees blocking the photo or little kids playing in the front yard when we drove by?

Never said that.

How do you know it is an excellent comp if you have never seen it?

One of your Realtors, that will not call you back, confirm it for you? Or do you trust their "presentation" pictures in the MLS?

Just asking....
 
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/...oc4cce33b8e8cdb162115195.txt?viewmode=default

“Could they be arrested for simple trespass? Yes. Would we arrest them? No,” he said. Since the workers are generally “acting in good faith” by doing work for the city and collecting information to be used for tax assessments, police try to “work it out” by talking to the worker, he said.

You think the police would show the same discretion for a private appraiser working for a private bank on a different property than the one you're trespassing on?

Like I said, know your state laws and FOLLOW them.

Good link. Ironically that article is from my state and in the very county I cover!
 
So on every report you do you call every realtor every time before snapping a picture? And then what? Is a realtor gonna arrange for you to get in? And if not, do you NOT use the comp simply because it is in a gated community? What if your subject is in another gated community?

I just do not experience your problems with gated communities.

I guess I just know too many people in my market.
 
Never said that.

How do you know it is an excellent comp if you have never seen it?

One of your Realtors, that will not call you back, confirm it for you? Or do you trust their "presentation" pictures in the MLS?

Just asking....

How do know it is an excellent comp after seeing the front from the street? You are not personally viewing the rear, sides, or interior.

Speaking to realtors and getting a photo or viewing the property are two different issues. You can speak to a realtor for an hour but if the comp is up a long driveway or behind a gate it is what it is. The realtor is not going to arrange for you to view the property, unless you live in Mayberry.
 
How do know it is an excellent comp after seeing the front from the street? You are not personally viewing the rear, sides, or interior.

Speaking to realtors and getting a photo or viewing the property are two different issues. You can speak to a realtor for an hour but if the comp is up a long driveway or behind a gate it is what it is. The realtor is not going to arrange for you to view the property, unless you live in Mayberry.

I am from Mayberry. Lets not take this in a personal direction.
 
I just do not experience your problems with gated communities.

I guess I just know too many people in my market.

That's great to hear. I'd gamble that most other appraisers would run into a problem arranging access to a gated community just to view and photograph a comp. Especially with a realtor unless you know them on a friendly basis.
 
Allow me to retort.

I know it is not illegal, usually, to go and knock on a door and attempt conversation. I'm saying who needs the hassle?

Lots we do is a hassle but we do it because it falls under the heading of "best practices". Perhaps you weren't aware, but confirming the comp with either the buyer or seller is the preferred and recommended method of verification with both GSEs, the VA and the FHA.

It's not about being a "wussie". That's easy to say on a chat site.

You keep using that response. Believe me, if you were sitting here in person, I'd have used a different phrase, one for which I would get dinged on the forum.

In many areas you get out of your car at your own risk. In some areas I'm nervous getting out of my car to go into the inspection....and these people are expecting me!

Somehow these lines make me think of the scene from Silence of the Lambs. What are you worried about, that your borrowers are going to turn you into a dress?

Even in better areas you have a 50/50 chance of being refused the photo or questions.

Your experience is 50/50, mine is much better. Go figure. It can't be the charm thing, since we've already established you're younger, better looking, a more astute businessman, and likely more charming. I wonder why the difference?

Why waste the time? Our due diligence requires us to view the property from the street.

I think the actual phrase from the URAR is found in item 3 of the SOW "inspect each of the comparable sales from at least the street."
It's perfectly fine to skate on doing just the minimum but then that becomes one's reputation.

I'll attempt to do that if it is visible, if not I'll use an online photo and move on. If there are people out front I'll drive by and view the comp and use an online photo.

As I said in my previous post I've met good people and bad. But the bad people make me ask myself why bother with the hassle.
 
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/...oc4cce33b8e8cdb162115195.txt?viewmode=default

“Could they be arrested for simple trespass? Yes. Would we arrest them? No,” he said. Since the workers are generally “acting in good faith” by doing work for the city and collecting information to be used for tax assessments, police try to “work it out” by talking to the worker, he said.

You think the police would show the same discretion for a private appraiser working for a private bank on a different property than the one you're trespassing on?

Like I said, know your state laws and FOLLOW them.

All this proves is the the alderman in question is a wuss also.

Besides, I don't go onto someone's property and start measuring things, I'm only there to knock on the door and ask questions.
 
Allow me to retort.

As I've stated if an appraiser wants to go the extra mile good for them. I've done so myself and have gotten mixed results so I say why bother.

I don't know what areas you appraise but it's no laughing matter about getting out of your car in some areas. Even for my own inspections I've been nervous. Not of the borrowers themselves but the people on the sidewalk blocking the home and the neighbors hanging out on the porches. I'm fairly street smart and no sucker. I know what goes on.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you say. Go for it all. Knock on doors, drive up long driveways, etc. all day long. I know there are a million things that can go wrong, the least of which is wasting valuable time for nothing. Most people work during the day so the chances of finding someone home is unlikely anyways. We are not expected to do anything but attempt to view the sale from the street and I am fine with that.
 
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All this proves is the the alderman in question is a wuss also.

Besides, I don't go onto someone's property and start measuring things, I'm only there to knock on the door and ask questions.

You did not answer a question I posed earlier. If you take the time to go up a long driveway and knock on the door and nobody is home will you snap a picture anyways?
 
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