Complaints filed against appraiser Has anyone been in front of the board?

[George Hatch]

There were 5 of us on the front end, including George Dodd, Pam Crowley, Mike Kennedy and Katherine Scheri. The reason it's called the Dodd-Crowley IVPI is because they were hot to add the rotation panel engagement to the proposal and the rest of us weren't.

 

[glenn walker]

There were 5 of us on the front end, including George Dodd, Pam Crowley, Mike Kennedy and Katherine Scheri. The reason it's called the Dodd-Crowley IVPI is because they were hot to add the rotation panel engagement to the proposal and the rest of us weren't.

The five trouble makers: )

 

[George Hatch]

There were other proposals that were put out. Ours' wasn't the only one.

 

[Salty]

I wonder how much legal representation would cost. Might be a year's worth of Amrock 1004s

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Just be ready to support and defend your ESTIMATE. You'll be fine.

Your issue with a board will relate to the report and if it complies with USPAP - regardless the support given your value.

Our profession is not a subsidiary of the banks. We do what we do for a number of different client types

Perhaps because licensing was instituted solely as a reaction to the S & L Crisis therefore is a bank issue, the bulk of work is bank related, and the very rules are written to regulate appraisals for banks. Some states don't even require licensing outside of federally related transactions.

It may not be fair but it's 100% legal under administration law.

That is why you need an administrative law attorney when you go before the board... sometimes (not infrequently) the board is not in compliance with their own rules and the rules of Administrative law. The Attorney General provides counsel to the various boards...do you think they send their top ace lawyers with this? Nada...prolly out of law school last year and on their first assignment.

couldn't find the number hitters for 10 years in the 2000's

state boards operate off of complaints as submitted.

Our state board can initiate an investigation upon their own. That does beg the question why they didn't investigate some of the rumored "mortgage appraisal mills"...nor does it explain why once they got rebuffed, they often then targeted the person who beat them in court. I know one where they revoked a CG's license, he went to court and the board was reversed. One CG on the board refused to excuse himself although they were bitter rivals in the same area. After the judge ordered them to re-instate the license, the board fined him $1000 anyway. His lawyer told him, he would win but it would be a pyrrhic victory. It would cost him far more. The board knew that. Two of his sins? His flood map was out of date. His population was out of date for the town. It was rumored his ex-son in law (also an appraiser whom he had trained) filed the complaints out of spite and his claim that his ex FIL had short changed him on some appraisals. Did I mention it was his first complaint in 20 years?

 

[Zoe]

Your issue with a board will relate to the report and if it complies with USPAP - regardless the support given your value.

Perhaps because licensing was instituted solely as a reaction to the S & L Crisis therefore is a bank issue, the bulk of work is bank related, and the very rules are written to regulate appraisals for banks. Some states don't even require licensing outside of federally related transactions.

That is why you need an administrative law attorney when you go before the board... sometimes (not infrequently) the board is not in compliance with their own rules and the rules of Administrative law. The Attorney General provides counsel to the various boards...do you think they send their top ace lawyers with this? Nada...prolly out of law school last year and on their first assignment.


Our state board can initiate an investigation upon their own. That does beg the question why they didn't investigate some of the rumored "mortgage appraisal mills"...nor does it explain why once they got rebuffed, they often then targeted the person who beat them in court. I know one where they revoked a CG's license, he went to court and the board was reversed. One CG on the board refused to excuse himself although they were bitter rivals in the same area. After the judge ordered them to re-instate the license, the board fined him $1000 anyway. His lawyer told him, he would win but it would be a pyrrhic victory. It would cost him far more. The board knew that. Two of his sins? His flood map was out of date. His population was out of date for the town. It was rumored his ex-son in law (also an appraiser whom he had trained) filed the complaints out of spite and his claim that his ex FIL had short changed him on some appraisals. Did I mention it was his first complaint in 20 years?

That ain't right. I realize the judicial system is not always right in court, but no other profession operates like the appraisal profession in those regards.

 

[Zoe]

Terrel. You just scratched the surface.

 

[djd09]

Former Real Estate Appraiser Pleads Guilty to Federal Wire Fraud Charge​

CHARLESTON, WV—A former West Virginia licensed real estate appraiser pleaded guilty today in federal court before United States District Judge Thomas E. Johnston to aiding and abetting wire fraud


******** is the second real estate appraiser prosecuted as part of the Stonegate mortgage fraud investigation.

******** faces up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine when he is sentenced on December 8, 2011.

The ongoing investigation is being handled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigative Division.

This case was prosecuted as part of President Obama’s Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force to wage an aggressive, coordinated, and proactive effort to investigate and prosecute financial crimes. The task force includes representatives from a broad range of federal agencies, regulatory authorities, inspectors general, and state and local law enforcement who, working together, bring to bear a powerful array of criminal and civil enforcement resources. The task force is working to improve efforts across the federal executive branch, and with state and local partners, to investigate and prosecute significant financial crimes, ensure just and effective punishment for those who perpetrate financial crimes, combat discrimination in the lending and financial markets, and recover proceeds for victims of financial crimes.

Former Real Estate Appraiser Pleads Guilty to Federal Wire Fraud Charge

archives.fbi.gov

serious offense. jail time.

 

[Elliott]

I haven't read the last 100 posts, so excuse me if I missed something.

If you are in most states, appraisers don't appear before the board unless they request a hearing and the time line presented by the OP is unbelievable. Of course the OP should follow the direction of his E/O provider. I had a partner who appeared at a hearing because of a bogus complaint, her attorney asked why some exculpatory evidence was being excluded, a halt to the administrative hearing was requested by the assistant attorney general, the case was dismissed, the director was in tears and soon fired. So if you want to roll over that is a business strategy, or you just might take them to task and you might make a difference.

 

[Zoe]

Okay,

*part of the problem has been competition between the independent appraisal organizations (competition between the individual organizations).
*part of the problem has been competition between the independent appraisal organizations and non-members of appraisal organizations.
*part of the problem is competition with people sitting on the board and other appraisers they compete with or have made enemies with.
*part of the problem is how members of a board are nominated by other members on the board.

All of the above have created problems. I am sure there are other problems that could be identified. I am sure board members or past board members know some other problems that could be identified.

I don't think any other profession has all the problems I mentioned. Most other professions operate more like a worker's union operates.