Toilet in closet.

[Terrel L. Shields]

Since the first floor plan couldn’t really change, the only real solution was to convert a closet

The solution was to build a bump out on the side of the house here. 8x7 on left - different house bump out on right.

 

[alebrewer]

Well...i guess that's where the term "water closet" came from. I would find that the best way to describe it is a one-fixture bathroom. Now, the real question to me is there a functional obsolescence for having a stink hole next to the kitchen and I would think so. That would be one door that would be locked shut if I owned the house.

haha! That was exactly my thought. They still call it that in Europe - at least in Germany.

 

[Tom4value]

The solution was to build a bump out on the side of the house here. 8x7 on left - different house bump out on right.
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Yes, you could do that but most homeowners took the easiest/cheapest way out and just converted a closet. Also, in this day and age, many of those older houses are on legal, non-conforming lots. This means if you want to change the footprint of the dwelling you have the added hassle of getting a variance.

 

[DTB]

Solved, available at your local Home Depot.

 

[Dublin ohio]

This would be the type of appraisal and adjustment that would give reviewer dublin a conniption fit, if not the vapers....

I don't care If you want to crap where you eat. If that is your "style". As far as an adjustment. As with all other adjustments. Fine with me as long as it market supported.

 

[KHS445]

I am doing an appraisal on a purchase of an early 1900s colonial house that the seller is flipping. The subject is 2,000 SF. with 1 full bathroom. The seller put a toilet in a 3 x 5 closet with no sink, only a toilet. The toilet is near the kitchen, and of course the realtor stated that this as a 1/2 bathroom because they can use the kitchen sink to wash their hands. I was able to find an old comparable that sold five years ago with similar square footage that had 1 full bathroom only, so I am guessing the 1 full bathroom for 2,000 sf is accepted by the market. But I am wondering how do I report the toilet closet in the appraisal, and is there any adjustment for it? Some input would be appreciated.

You haven’t explained exactly the relationship between the access to the toilet room and the actual kitchen. Not sure what residential code is, but I do know commercial code in Michigan states that a bathroom cannot open directly into a food preparation space. You might check with a plumber or plumbing inspector to see what the residential code states.

 

[DTB]

There are tens of thousands of apartments and houses in Chicago with a bathroom entrance directly off the kitchen. (That's where the plumbing is-LOL)

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

t most homeowners took the easiest/cheapest way out and just converted a closet.

Really? Got any numbers on that? I mean if you have a big house, 2 story and small lot maybe a different story. But when the house isn't all that big to start with??? You add on. There is no closet, especially big enough for a full bathroom. In rural America there were often houses without either septic or sewer. There was a bath to the back of the lot. Half the homes built here before 1920 did not even have closets. They used a "wardrobe" - aka armoire, a free standing cabinet "closet."

 

[andrew81]

In my market bathroom doors from the kitchen are common in older homes. I've seen the toilet in a closet a few times. I did a purchase appraisal on a home with one bathroom that has a really nice old claw tub. There was a shower installed in the dinning room closet. Later I did a refinance appraisal and the owner had removed the closet shower.

 

[sputnam]

I am doing an appraisal on a purchase of an early 1900s colonial house that the seller is flipping. The subject is 2,000 SF. with 1 full bathroom. The seller put a toilet in a 3 x 5 closet with no sink, only a toilet. The toilet is near the kitchen, and of course the realtor stated that this as a 1/2 bathroom because they can use the kitchen sink to wash their hands. I was able to find an old comparable that sold five years ago with similar square footage that had 1 full bathroom only, so I am guessing the 1 full bathroom for 2,000 sf is accepted by the market. But I am wondering how do I report the toilet closet in the appraisal, and is there any adjustment for it? Some input would be appreciated.

You report what you observed. Some people would call it a 1/4 bathroom. Yet another example of UAD being too rigid to be used for every property. All you can do is 'See comments' and describe what it is.