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Basement Bedroom

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Basement room being used as a bedroom, but has no egress window or any window for that matter within the room itself. There is an egress window in another part of the basement. The town recognizes this room as a legal bedroom. How can this be?
 
Basement room being used as a bedroom, but has no egress window or any window for that matter within the room itself. There is an egress window in another part of the basement. The town recognizes this room as a legal bedroom. How can this be?
I wouldn't want to take on the liability. The city and re agents can call them what they want. No secondary egress, no bedroom. Is that an actual opinion from the city or is just that way on a property card. How about local fire dept. or building regulations
 
Basement room being used as a bedroom, but has no egress window or any window for that matter within the room itself. There is an egress window in another part of the basement. The town recognizes this room as a legal bedroom. How can this be?
Code requirements differ from place to place.
 
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You can call it whatever you want. Technically, it can be many different rooms. I prefer on single fam to call a finished basement a rec room, or just generically room.. Does it being a bedroom have much value difference from a rec room. Just ignore the realtor, owner, and zoning.

The other part of the basement with the window, is it unfinished, or finished.
 
I don’t think I’ve ever double checked what I see at the appraisal inspection with what the county claims. I only label something a bedroom if it has a window.
 
The county or city assessors strive to collect as much tax as possible, thus might label rooms as X or include areas in GLA sf that appraisers do not include.

Our standard is ANSI. Regardless of what a city recognizes or labels or what MLS gushes about in a listing.
 
From ChatGPT

New Jersey follows the International Residential Code (IRC) with state amendments under the NJ Uniform Construction Code (UCC). Under these rules, a legal bedroom must have:

  1. Emergency egress
    • Either:
      • A code-compliant egress window, or
      • An exterior door leading directly outside
    • Interior doors or hallways do not count for egress.
  2. Minimum egress window standards (if it’s a window)
    • Minimum net clear opening: 5.7 sq ft (5.0 sq ft if at grade)
    • Minimum opening height: 24 inches
    • Minimum opening width: 20 inches
    • Window sill no higher than 44 inches from the floor
    • If below grade → must have a window well meeting clearance rules
  3. Light & ventilation
    • Usually satisfied by the same window used for egress

So if there’s no window at all, that room cannot be labeled or permitted as a bedroom in NJ.​

 
From ChatGPT

New Jersey follows the International Residential Code (IRC) with state amendments under the NJ Uniform Construction Code (UCC). Under these rules, a legal bedroom must have:

  1. Emergency egress
    • Either:
      • A code-compliant egress window, or
      • An exterior door leading directly outside
    • Interior doors or hallways do not count for egress.
  2. Minimum egress window standards (if it’s a window)
    • Minimum net clear opening: 5.7 sq ft (5.0 sq ft if at grade)
    • Minimum opening height: 24 inches
    • Minimum opening width: 20 inches
    • Window sill no higher than 44 inches from the floor
    • If below grade → must have a window well meeting clearance rules
  3. Light & ventilation
    • Usually satisfied by the same window used for egress

So if there’s no window at all, that room cannot be labeled or permitted as a bedroom in NJ.​

Not questioning your assertions, but there may be more to the story. For example,
1) Montana requires adherence to a specific, mandatory statewide building code based on the 2021 International Code Council (ICC) standards, effective as of June 2022. While the state mandates these codes for most commercial and large residential projects, enforcement can be handled by local jurisdictions (cities/counties) or the state.
2) Exemptions: State building codes generally do not apply to residential structures with fewer than five dwelling units, farm/ranch buildings, or private garages, unless local jurisdictions adopt them.
3) Existing buildings in Montana that do not meet current building codes are generally permitted to remain as "legal, nonconforming" structures, allowing continued use, provided they do not become less safe. However, renovations, repairs, or changes in occupancy may trigger requirements to bring specific areas into compliance with modern codes.

The last time I worried much about building codes was in about 1993. I was appraising a low-quality cabin on a 20-acre tract out in the hills (FHA loan). The property was greatly overpriced and sat on the market for many months before they found a buyer (from somewhere on the East Coast) who thought the price was great (based on her local market). There were a couple of bedrooms with windows, but none met code requirements for egress (bottom was further from the floor than maximum allowed), and the wood stove was adjacent to the only door into, or out of, the dwelling. I dug deep and got to the part about enforcement being handled by local jurisdictions. Further digging revealed the intent of that was that only incorporated communities had that authority (and then, many small communities were not incorporated...that has been corrected as the money pipelines from the public trough mostly require incorporation), and that still does not apply to that rural property. I explained all that in the report, but didn't adjust for any of it, and for my troubles, got nasty messages from the buyer over not rubberstamping the contract.

Not having appraised in areas where the Gestapo rules, I don't know how everyone else's systems work. Here, if you are found building without a permit (in those few areas that require it) the penalty is to purchase the required permits (or they can shut the project down). If you finish before they find you have no permit, they might wag their finger at you, but there is no penalty or enduring stain on the property. All that to say, what matters in one place may not matter at all in another.
 
Could just be a mistake?

I grew up in a three bedroom home. The tax card had 2 bedrooms. No conversions, no additions, all bedrooms have a closet and a window.

The assessor simply made a mistake.

Call the governing body up and ask? Report back and tell us what they said.

That being said, there is no law that's states how we should label anything.

What was its original intended use?

Classic 1900 built home with no closets.

Some dining rooms and bonus rooms have a closet and a window? Does it magically become a bedroom?

Some rooms on the main level have a closet and a window (a office) but lacks a full bathroom on the same level. Is it a office or a bedroom.

So for your situation, what was its original purpose when built? I highly doubt it was for a bedroom giving it lacks a window.

The question is, what does the market perceive this room as? Is it common for basement bedrooms to not have a window? Do a MLS search...again I highly doubt others are calling it a bedroom.

Lastly, was it a custom built home? Owners can label it whatever they want on the blue prints or plans and the assessor may have just went off whatever the plans said.
 
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