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3.6 Crunch Time

Maybe the Appraisals were technically "good and valid giving the condition and comps" but it had become "comps justifying comps" for so long. Sorta like AI training AI, but different.
I get that Appraisals might have a short self-life do to changing comps, but seems part of comps should be looking back a few years and unless their is solid reason for a strong increase, like something that will support higher incomes for the foreseeable future, maybe ask "oh really?" and "does this look like a bubble?"
Half of everything you look at on the high side sales spectrum of any given market segment are valuation acceptance rubber stamped approved.

The entire industry is reliant on self reinforcing feedback loops with high sales prices the loans should never have supported in the first place.

Appraisers must understand what data cancer is to educate others what this common data anomaly is. Bifurcated markets for everyone!

Another few hundred billion of using treasury funds to buy more mbs's will not save them.

It's time to wind down the GSE's.
 
Half of everything you look at on the high side sales spectrum of any given market segment are valuation acceptance rubber stamped approved.

The entire industry is reliant on self reinforcing feedback loops with high sales prices the loans should never have supported in the first place.

Appraisers must understand what data cancer is to educate others what this common data anomaly is. Bifurcated markets for everyone!

Another few hundred billion of using treasury funds to buy more mbs's will not save them.

It's time to wind down the GSE's.
We need the GSEs for mortgage lending. Maybe not get rid of them, but structurally change them. I have no idea how, but change in a way that is an improvement. What is currently going on is a disaster.
 
My wife got sick of hearing me complain about 3.6 so tonight she said "Here is a do nothing type job at my college that they have had no applicants for in months". Full benefits, 12 month position, but with paid days off for typical school break days and holidays. Only, $60k salary, but I could still do one report every weekend to supplement. Considering.
I get by on far less than that working part time if I so choose. Sounds like easy money.

Everyone keeps talking about 3.6 deadlines. I just delete the emails! Ha! We're going to wait on this one a minimum of six months if not much much longer.

DId you read the latest story that Pulte with FHFA straight up fired ten of the most senior highest paid executives from multiple departments with Fannie?

'When every mortgage lender in the entire country calls the FHFA to complain they suddenly do not have enough appraisers to fulfill mortgage demand due to the 3.6 forms.'

Most of them probably did not even bother to look at the program until the past month.

At this point the 'mandate' and all the notifications is nothing more than industry propaganda.

How do I do it I'd better get prepared! This is not the way. You open the software and dial it in however possible, no training necessary.

Nobody cares about appraisal quality anymore or data integrity.

How frigging challenging is it to send a solicitation flyer to someone other than a lender?

Apparently pretty damned challenging. Ha!


FNMA exec use 3.6 forms angry.JPG
 
We need the GSEs for mortgage lending. Maybe not get rid of them, but structurally change them. I have no idea how, but change in a way that is an improvement. What is currently going on is a disaster.
You do understand they originate on a fractional reserve basis and don't actually have any money or loan anything... Loans are primarily funded upon mbs packaging and investor purchasing.

Everything that is not purchased is automatically sent for loan repurchase by the originator, which also sparks an automatic ghost writer complaint against the appraisers license and insurance.

We do not need GSE's to have sound lending in America.

We need more people to use in house loans from credit unions.

It is the GSE's agressive market activity and insane injection of risk into residential markets along with their credit default swap programs why even the most well intentioned credit unions can not compete enough to even offer in house mortgage loans anymore.

GSE's are so far from their congressional charter it's absurd.
 
If lender is your client, you should not have them in rose colored glasses to inflate Market value so loan can close. As licensed appraiser, your only bias on a loan is for Market value appraisal on the subject property. Your only bias is to the subject real property. You have no other bias other than MV definition and the subject real property rights.
Except for the fact that it's every day practice, the new status quo to blacklist appraisers whom don't play ball.

Every. Day. Of. The. Week. All you have to do is look.

Just wanted to share/vent after being blacklisted from a long time client after having a value come in significantly below contract price. I put together one of the best researched reports I have ever done and all it got me was losing a client that our office has had since the late 1990s.
 
My son bought a house in a suburb north of Milwaukee. Paid 25,000 over list price. Appraisal Waiver. I was surprised. Yes, he has a good job (electrical engineer) and good credit (800), but he didn't bring a bunch of cash to the table. The only thing I can think of is they ran an AVM.
Cool now his sale gets to be part of the self re enforcing feedback loop which creates infinitely higher housing pricing into the future.

Awesome.
 
Not in my market. I came in under contract more often than not and the loans still closed. Waivers aren't given at random. They're given to lower risk borrowers that are well aware they're overpaying.



Same applies to buyers waiving appraisal contingencies. One buyer that wants a property at any cost and has the money to throw at it will skew the comps higher with or without an appraisal.

We won't know how good or bad waivers are until we see the default rates associated with them
Sling lets you do that. Can you see it? You can track and research the data cancer if you want to simply by looking at larger markets with high volumes of uniform housing. Three level 55+ retirement community condo's are perhaps the easiest way to show the uninitiated what self re enforcing feedback loops via automatic avm and value waiver pass throughs really mean. Can you see it?

In highly uniform markets that are large enough that almost every appraiser or realty agent only bothers to look in the same complex, because there is an excess of data, the feedback loop has long since already resulted in unsustainably high values. This particular market of around 300 condo buildings and around 3,000 individual units, has lost $150k per unit minimum, some even more, scales with size and general price. Windsor Gardens, Denver, CO. Evaporated within a brief year or two. It's an area wide trend but looking into large markets the data cancer is right there like a big red stamp.

90 day picture in a market crashing for years. This is actually the slow recovery as expected dom is now down from 24m to around 6m, and expired listing proportional volume is way way down. Sales volume is moving up. While price and value continues to slide.

Note the 'successful sales' that still pass so high.

Thirteen sales in 90 days, four of them were most likely people with good credit, maybe more. Value acceptance nullifies the principal of substitution and wipes away blacks law definition of fair market value. These concepts no longer apply.

All anyone needs to do in order to provide serious research on the matter is pull up those sales records, call the buyers agent, and verify their borrowers used appraisal waivers.

This will in the not too distant future, provide excellent leads for litigation against buyers agents and their insurers, whom failed to secure far better deals for their buyers than they could have, and rather walked them into immediately upside down loans in order to get a slightly larger commission.

I absolutely guarantee that if the value waiver program remains in place, this market will go sky high again as well. This is how wealth is extracted from realty markets.

One of the reasons we can see the data cancer so clearly here is the hoa's strict maximum 20% rental and off site owner limitation. Otherwise the big players would have picked almost all of this up from the FNMA Whole Loan program and had first purchase opportunity to hold these as rentals, and defaulted or walk away units would not have been seen on MLS in the first place. That's how they do it. This is how a fifth of housing has moved into corporate hands.

90 day picture, crashing market, with WAIVERS.JPG
 
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Cool now his sale gets to be part of the self re enforcing feedback loop which creates infinitely higher housing pricing into the future.

Awesome.
Not true we don't know if he paid $25,000 to much but if the markets stable or increasing he may have no issues and look like a good buyer. I've rarely known many appraisers that were good buyers most are looking in the rear view mirrors and not forward at the trends.
 
Not true we don't know if he paid $25,000 to much but if the markets stable or increasing he may have no issues and look like a good buyer. I've rarely known many appraisers that were good buyers most are looking in the rear view mirrors and not forward at the trends.
No. If he got a waiver, he's definitely a part of that. For absolutely sure.
 
You do understand they originate on a fractional reserve basis and don't actually have any money or loan anything... Loans are primarily funded upon mbs packaging and investor purchasing.

Everything that is not purchased is automatically sent for loan repurchase by the originator, which also sparks an automatic ghost writer complaint against the appraisers license and insurance.

We do not need GSE's to have sound lending in America.

We need more people to use in house loans from credit unions.

It is the GSE's agressive market activity and insane injection of risk into residential markets along with their credit default swap programs why even the most well intentioned credit unions can not compete enough to even offer in house mortgage loans anymore.

GSE's are so far from their congressional charter it's absurd.
Look up the history of mortgage lending. Pre F/F, it was difficult to get any kind of mortgage let alone a a 30 year mortgage. A 5 or 10 year mortgage at most, with a balloon payment at the end if it was just interest only. IF you could get a mortgage. The GSEs allowed the lenders to sell the mortgages thereby freeing up their $$ to lend to someone else. You want the residential RE market to crash? Get rid of F/F.

Too funny use loans from CUs. Who do you think they sell their loans to? yes they tend to keep more in house than a bank, but they do sell many of their mortgages to free up capital.
 
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