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1 bathroom and 4 bedrooms. Functional Obsolescence

Logan1111

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Details. Conventional Purchase
1900 sf ranch, 4 bedroom, 1 bathroom, separate shower(only) in a private room in the laundry, built in the mid 70's, small rural town of less than 5k.
The room is already there and in my eyes, a non contractor, adding the bathroom seems plausible without moving or adding any walls.

The subject was part of a farm that has been sold and newer smaller homes are being built all with 3bed 2 bath.
Most of the sales in the past year in the town have 2 baths. A few 1 1/2 baths and even fewer 1 baths, but I do have a couple from the area and the next town over.

IF it had 2 baths, it would appraiser for more and I have spoken with a builder and have "estimates" on what adding the bathroom would cost. I have been reading through articles, forums, and the appraisal of real estate and I still am not 100% positive on how to proceed.

Cost to cure estimate from builder - 10k to 15k
Added value for 2nd bathroom - 11k

These margins are so small that it could pass from curable to incurable per definitions.

I saw past forum posts speaking on looking at the year built and what was expected then, and yes my 1 bathroom comparables are older but so are some of the 2 bathroom comparables. Is this functional obsolescence, or am I being biased because I would insist on 2 bathrooms?


The way I stand right now. This is curable functional obsolescence, this will be placed in the cost approach, my 1 bathroom comps will most likely be weighted the most, and I will lean toward the lower end of the range of comparables over all.

2 cents and opinions are welcome.
 
Depends on the market too. I see these in older communities. Do you see major differences between homes with 4 bedrooms with 2 baths and 4 bedrooms with 1 bath? What were the DOM?
 
So were the 2 bath comps converted from 1 bath homes. Where is the laundry relative to the bedrooms. Most 2 bath homes have one that is the owner's bath. So that might be another thing to consider
 
Depends on the market too. I see these in older communities. Do you see major differences between homes with 4 bedrooms with 2 baths and 4 bedrooms with 1 bath? What were the DOM?


The subject's DOM 3

4 Bed 2 Bath Comps 30 and 39 (Sold within the last 6 months) Similar design and Sf.

4 Bed 1 Bath 1900s historic complete remodel(not considered) DOM 93 days.
 
So were the 2 bath comps converted from 1 bath homes. Where is the laundry relative to the bedrooms. Most 2 bath homes have one that is the owner's bath. So that might be another thing to consider
As far as I have been able to determine, no, they were originally built with the 2 bathrooms. My experience in the past has been a 1/2 bath in the main bedroom, and then another in the hallway.

Your comment on location is important, it is on the other side of the home. But if the family eats bad chicken, I don't think anyone cares what side of the house the toilet is on. =)
 
As far as I have been able to determine, no, they were originally built with the 2 bathrooms. My experience in the past has been a 1/2 bath in the main bedroom, and then another in the hallway.

Your comment on location is important, it is on the other side of the home. But if the family eats bad chicken, I don't think anyone cares what side of the house the toilet is on. =)
I would question whether or not the market would react the same way
 
I have 3 bathrooms in my house and one of my not working toilet needs a new fill valve. It leaks water and Fernando doesn't like to waste water.
For past months, I could use the other two bathrooms in the house but it's very inconvenient. When I want to go, I go and don't like to wait.
Having 3 bathrooms - one for wife, one for children, and one for me are so nice.

So I finally bought a replacement fill valve but I'm having a problem unlocking that nut under the tank.
I tried using different wrenches but I can't get it to "unscrew". Toto toilet design is terrible.
Last resort is to use a hacksaw to cut it but I'm trying to figure out another way like maybe with superglue.:unsure:
 
Details. Conventional Purchase
1900 sf ranch, 4 bedroom, 1 bathroom, separate shower(only) in a private room in the laundry, built in the mid 70's, small rural town of less than 5k.
The room is already there and in my eyes, a non contractor, adding the bathroom seems plausible without moving or adding any walls.

The subject was part of a farm that has been sold and newer smaller homes are being built all with 3bed 2 bath.
Most of the sales in the past year in the town have 2 baths. A few 1 1/2 baths and even fewer 1 baths, but I do have a couple from the area and the next town over.

IF it had 2 baths, it would appraiser for more and I have spoken with a builder and have "estimates" on what adding the bathroom would cost. I have been reading through articles, forums, and the appraisal of real estate and I still am not 100% positive on how to proceed.

Cost to cure estimate from builder - 10k to 15k
Added value for 2nd bathroom - 11k

These margins are so small that it could pass from curable to incurable per definitions.

I saw past forum posts speaking on looking at the year built and what was expected then, and yes my 1 bathroom comparables are older but so are some of the 2 bathroom comparables. Is this functional obsolescence, or am I being biased because I would insist on 2 bathrooms?


The way I stand right now. This is curable functional obsolescence, this will be placed in the cost approach, my 1 bathroom comps will most likely be weighted the most, and I will lean toward the lower end of the range of comparables over all.

2 cents and opinions are welcome.
11k is a weird figure. It is the contributory value adjusted for, so around 10k would be more appropriate.

4 bedrooms. The normal market expectation is at least 2 baths. So either the buyer likes the house enough to put up with one bath, or they would plan on adding a second bath at one point. Which depending on layout, permits etc could cost more than 10k-

After adjusting for the one bath, go on and appraise the house. It might have positive features going for it that add value and appeal - charm, a nice site etc. Of course, if it is a rundown or boring house with one less bathroom than typical, that would matter. I look at teh whole package in an appraisal when it is a relatively easy-to-cure problem like this-
 
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