cejack
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So let's say you have an engagement contract letter for an apprasisal from Bank ABC and they list SBA CDC Lender XYZ as an intended user as well as an "addressee" on the appraisal engagement contract letter, but the engagement contract letter obviously is issued by the Bank ABC only and nowhere does it specify in the letter than anyone other than the bank is the Client.
Buyer's Broker asks about the anticipated due date of the appraisal and I tell them I can't release any of that information without express permission (preferably in writing) from the Client. (My take is the Bank ABC is the only Client in this assignment as they do not specify SBA CDC Lender XYZ as anything other than an "intended user" and an "addressee" in the engagement letter.
SBA CDC Lender XYZ asks about the anticipated due date of the appraisal at the behest of buyer's broker trying to figure out certain things with a private loan and an SBA loan. Totally understandable, but not my problem either.
Furthermore, let's say that you check with Bank ABC before you say anything to anybody and they tell you clear as a bell that you can't share any appraisal assignment information or conclusions or pretty much anything else, including the anticipated future due date of the appraisal assignment, with anyone outside of Bank ABC.
You tell them (buyer's broker and SBA CDC Lender XYZ) again that they are going to have to get any information they are asking for in that regard from Bank ABC.
SBA CDC Lender XYZ sends me an authorization to release the information to the buyer's broker after the buyer's broker thinks that is the appropriate person to ask them to send a request to release the appraiser to discuss that information with the buyer's broker. I explain that they must contact Bank ABC's account officer and I cannot release any assignment information without their permission. I understand many SBA lenders are supposed to be listed as a Client and Intended User from what I see on-line but, unfortunately, this EL does not do that. Only lists the SBA CDC Lender XYZ as an "intended user" and as "addressee" on the Engagement Letter. Perhaps this is an error by the Bank ABC as I have obviously seen other times in other engagements where the SBA CDC Lender XYZ or other similar entity is listed as both a "Client" and "Intended User" and called out as such in the appraisal engagement contract. Nevertheless, "it is what it is" in this case and I don't see it being a good idea to communicate assignment information to anyone here but Bank ABC.
After all this I get an e-mail from SBA CDC Lender XYZ that asks, "You're saying the SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are not listed as intended users?" after I instruct them to seek their information about the due date of the appraisal from Bank ABC and/or their account officer.
Even responding to this question about whether SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are listed as intended users on the engagement contract now would be something that could be in violation of the confidentiality rule. I have no idea if they have a copy of the engagement contract or not. I get engagement contract letters and I do appraisal reports to the specifications of the engagement contract. All other items do not really concern the appraiser.
As far as I'm aware only the "Client" and the "Appraiser" as defined in USPAP have this confidentiality provision applicable and the "Intended User" or "Addressee" (in this case which is the SBA CDC Lender XYZ as the Engagement Letter Contract reads) cannot step into the shoes of Bank ABC as the "Client" just because they are listed as an "intended user" on the engagement contract.
Obviously, SBA CDC Lender XYZ thinks they are the Client which, if you read the engagement contract letter, I'm sure most appraisers here would have severe doubts on that one as the letter clearly is on the Bank's letterhead and authorized directly by Bank ABC to the appraiser and the EL nowhere identifies SBA CDC Lender as anything but an "intended user" and an "addressee" in the Engagement Letter Contract. My best "appraisal lawyer" hat that I can put on tells me "No - SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are not the Client the way this engagement contract reads."
Of course, I have my own opinion on how to proceed and have proceeded accordingly here, but just curious what the other people in this forum think and would do in this situation.
This is a small commercial / industrial property.
Buyer's Broker asks about the anticipated due date of the appraisal and I tell them I can't release any of that information without express permission (preferably in writing) from the Client. (My take is the Bank ABC is the only Client in this assignment as they do not specify SBA CDC Lender XYZ as anything other than an "intended user" and an "addressee" in the engagement letter.
SBA CDC Lender XYZ asks about the anticipated due date of the appraisal at the behest of buyer's broker trying to figure out certain things with a private loan and an SBA loan. Totally understandable, but not my problem either.
Furthermore, let's say that you check with Bank ABC before you say anything to anybody and they tell you clear as a bell that you can't share any appraisal assignment information or conclusions or pretty much anything else, including the anticipated future due date of the appraisal assignment, with anyone outside of Bank ABC.
You tell them (buyer's broker and SBA CDC Lender XYZ) again that they are going to have to get any information they are asking for in that regard from Bank ABC.
SBA CDC Lender XYZ sends me an authorization to release the information to the buyer's broker after the buyer's broker thinks that is the appropriate person to ask them to send a request to release the appraiser to discuss that information with the buyer's broker. I explain that they must contact Bank ABC's account officer and I cannot release any assignment information without their permission. I understand many SBA lenders are supposed to be listed as a Client and Intended User from what I see on-line but, unfortunately, this EL does not do that. Only lists the SBA CDC Lender XYZ as an "intended user" and as "addressee" on the Engagement Letter. Perhaps this is an error by the Bank ABC as I have obviously seen other times in other engagements where the SBA CDC Lender XYZ or other similar entity is listed as both a "Client" and "Intended User" and called out as such in the appraisal engagement contract. Nevertheless, "it is what it is" in this case and I don't see it being a good idea to communicate assignment information to anyone here but Bank ABC.
After all this I get an e-mail from SBA CDC Lender XYZ that asks, "You're saying the SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are not listed as intended users?" after I instruct them to seek their information about the due date of the appraisal from Bank ABC and/or their account officer.
Even responding to this question about whether SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are listed as intended users on the engagement contract now would be something that could be in violation of the confidentiality rule. I have no idea if they have a copy of the engagement contract or not. I get engagement contract letters and I do appraisal reports to the specifications of the engagement contract. All other items do not really concern the appraiser.
As far as I'm aware only the "Client" and the "Appraiser" as defined in USPAP have this confidentiality provision applicable and the "Intended User" or "Addressee" (in this case which is the SBA CDC Lender XYZ as the Engagement Letter Contract reads) cannot step into the shoes of Bank ABC as the "Client" just because they are listed as an "intended user" on the engagement contract.
Obviously, SBA CDC Lender XYZ thinks they are the Client which, if you read the engagement contract letter, I'm sure most appraisers here would have severe doubts on that one as the letter clearly is on the Bank's letterhead and authorized directly by Bank ABC to the appraiser and the EL nowhere identifies SBA CDC Lender as anything but an "intended user" and an "addressee" in the Engagement Letter Contract. My best "appraisal lawyer" hat that I can put on tells me "No - SBA and SBA Lender XYZ are not the Client the way this engagement contract reads."
Of course, I have my own opinion on how to proceed and have proceeded accordingly here, but just curious what the other people in this forum think and would do in this situation.
This is a small commercial / industrial property.