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Concessions - What % do you adjust?

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bobsofi

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Hi all,

Got into a little discussion on this topic.

Concessions... Seller paid NRCC and the like

??? What % of the concessions do you all adjust ???

Yes, of course, we all know => Market Reaction.

Now... How much do you adjust 50%, 75%, 100% ???
 
Hi all,

Got into a little discussion on this topic.

Concessions... Seller paid NRCC and the like

??? What % of the concessions do you all adjust ???

Yes, of course, we all know => Market Reaction.

Now... How much do you adjust 50%, 75%, 100% ???

You can ask the sales agent if the credit affected the final contract price.
What is interesting is I've found this to be the experience:
In the lower-price tiers, the credit typically has an impact on the contract price.
In the higher-price tiers, the credit typically has little impact on the contract price.
As you can appreciate, the type and size of the credit may have an impact regardless of the price-tier.


One regular poster has this advice (which I've never heard anyone say has been a problem): When it comes to adjusting for sales concessions, adjust "dollar for dollar, and no one will holler!"
:new_smile-l:

Edit to add: The alledged poster I referenced snuck his post in just before mine!
 
lol... It boils down to "who cares? even if anyone could really figure it out."

$4$ is reasonable and no one can prove you wrong.

* Just don't say it's dollar for dollar or else someone WILL holler. :D
 
In my more than 30 years of working in the field (e.g., brokerage, relocation company, appraisal) of residential real estate, SELDOM (very seldom) have I found either the buyer or seller to be neutral when it comes to:

--the contract price;
--the dollar amount of a concession.

At times it seems to me that everyone associated with these matters has a good understanding of the topic--everyone, that is, except appraisers. :)
 
So... for those of you like me that appraise all day long... every day... 24/7/365

What % of concessions do you typically adjust for?

100% for entry level homes?

50% for jumbo estates?

Thanks or the info!
 
I work in the industry every day and have for 13 years. Why would you use a percentage and where would you get the data to support this.

$4$ information is evident in the sale price and the contract. It's written in black and white.
 
Bob, the percentage approach to concession adjustments I thought came more on the front end through mortgage origination approaches. Such as the buyers need closing cost assist of downpayment assist. Typically we can use a percentage there to be pretty close to the average figures for those pricing scales.

For adjusting the concession amount within the grid, proportional adjustments would not be appropriate if such concessions represented a straight line reduction of net to seller for every dollar that was concessed.

Hence, dollar for dollar is the only way to go.

If I'm doing a concession adjustment, I assume net to seller reduction, and dollar for dollar is the only honest adjustment which properly depicts the market reaction. The market being the seller, the reaction to being asked to take less is an exact reduction in net, from the concession. Dollar for dollar is the only appropriate adjustment to use for typical seller concessions.

Lee, you should quote your article on this matter more often. It's relevant and a good read. "Today, tomorrow, and yesterday"; concessions apply in whole. Or something along those lines.

Face the facts; Any leeway appraisers are given or proposed to be given through flexible analysis process is merely a backstop for lenders to push deals through the door when otherwise honest math hinders the process.

To adjust dollar for dollar concessions in typical residential markets for mortgage lending considerations, or not to adjust dollar for dollar concession in typical residential markets for mortgage lending considerations.

If anyone cries about my dollar for dollar adjustment approach, they can cry to me like those aggressive predatory lenders used to, and vainly try and convince me that a dollar given in concession does not result in a dollar less in the pocket of the seller. As if.....
 
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What Can said. A concession is just that. A buyer might say if they had the cash they would buy anyway, but if a frog had a pocket to carry a pistol in he wouldn,t be afraid of snakes. Without the concession the deal don,t happen
 
Everyone gets all paranoid about $4$ due to the Fannie missive about not making $4$ adjustments. But the missive doesn't really say that. It cautions against making "Automatic" $4$ adjustments.

If you think about the concessions for a few minutes or seconds and figure out you can't figure it out then it's not automatic, is it?

Edit: Delete "automatic" and change to "mechanical."

lol... thanks Lee. You're picture makes you look like a tuff guy. :icon_mrgreen:
 
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