23Degrees
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- Jan 31, 2004
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- Certified Residential Appraiser
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- California
I received a call the other day from an appraiser who had received a letter of demand from a borrower who claimed to rely on an appraisal for a purchase a few years ago. Unfortunately when the appraiser changed E&O vendors prior acts were not included and so insurance was not involved. The issue of contention involved a topic some of us used to love arguing (permits) but the purpose of this thread is not to re-argue that dead horse.
The home in question had an unpermitted family room addition and unpermitted garage conversion that left no covered parking. Both were disclosed in the report. Both were valued as unpermitted per the available data from the neighborhood area. Apparently due to recent interactions with the city the methodology and credibility of the values given for these items was under attack as was the "legal" classification of "zoning compliance". Per council the appraiser was advised that defending the valuation of these areas was possible, although with no guarantee of success, but advised to settle due to one small detail - the "legal" box was checked for zoning compliance without any definition of "zoning compliance" given in the report. Per the attorney the appraiser should "probably" have checked "illegal" but might have been able to limit or even eliminate their liability for both areas if language defining "zoning compliance" was included within the report as that term apparently can have wide interpretations depending upon the party involved. At the very least, in their opinion, liability could have been limited or avoided for the unpermitted family room addition despite, per the appraiser, permit requirements being instilled within the actual zoning code and at least one setback being violated but also possibly for the garage despite covered parking requirements in the zoning code.
Although we could save ourselves time by agreeing that "illegal" should have been checked - end of story - My question for the forum:
What language, if any, would be appropriate for defining "zoning compliance" within a URAR that would not infringe on Fannie guidelines and would have protected this appraiser from having to shell out serious dollars despite having checked "legal"? Maybe it would have only been applicable to one of the unpermitted areas in question and not the other. Maybe neither and this attorney has suggested something that is not possible. While the appraiser might still have had to defend their actual valuation of the areas involved, not having this zoning compliance issue in the equation would surely have been helpful and at least avoided the complete roll over that was advised by their attorney.
In any event it seems that having a defendable definition of "zoning compliance" within a report that utilizes these forms is probably worthwhile and I am curious what others think.
The home in question had an unpermitted family room addition and unpermitted garage conversion that left no covered parking. Both were disclosed in the report. Both were valued as unpermitted per the available data from the neighborhood area. Apparently due to recent interactions with the city the methodology and credibility of the values given for these items was under attack as was the "legal" classification of "zoning compliance". Per council the appraiser was advised that defending the valuation of these areas was possible, although with no guarantee of success, but advised to settle due to one small detail - the "legal" box was checked for zoning compliance without any definition of "zoning compliance" given in the report. Per the attorney the appraiser should "probably" have checked "illegal" but might have been able to limit or even eliminate their liability for both areas if language defining "zoning compliance" was included within the report as that term apparently can have wide interpretations depending upon the party involved. At the very least, in their opinion, liability could have been limited or avoided for the unpermitted family room addition despite, per the appraiser, permit requirements being instilled within the actual zoning code and at least one setback being violated but also possibly for the garage despite covered parking requirements in the zoning code.
Although we could save ourselves time by agreeing that "illegal" should have been checked - end of story - My question for the forum:
What language, if any, would be appropriate for defining "zoning compliance" within a URAR that would not infringe on Fannie guidelines and would have protected this appraiser from having to shell out serious dollars despite having checked "legal"? Maybe it would have only been applicable to one of the unpermitted areas in question and not the other. Maybe neither and this attorney has suggested something that is not possible. While the appraiser might still have had to defend their actual valuation of the areas involved, not having this zoning compliance issue in the equation would surely have been helpful and at least avoided the complete roll over that was advised by their attorney.
In any event it seems that having a defendable definition of "zoning compliance" within a report that utilizes these forms is probably worthwhile and I am curious what others think.