Fannie Bathroom Count

[Lycabull]

I heard something today that was new to me. While I was getting comp data from another appraiser, he was giving me a room count and said something like “6-3-2.1” When I asked him about the “2.1” part to make sure the .1 referred to a half bath, he said it did. I asked him why he listed half bathrooms that way and he said an instructor told him it was something Fannie wanted.

I see the reasoning behind this and also think it is a better way to list how many half baths a house has. However, I can also see it causing a lot of confusion to the readers of my reports. Most reports I see still refer to a half bath as a .5 in the room count.

If anyone could point me to anything Fannie has publicly stated in writing about doing it this way, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Smokey Bear]

First Fannie messes with the definition of PUD, and now they're messing with math. 2.1 is 2 and 1/10th. Not sure what would constitute 1/10th of a bathroom, but I'm not putting that in there. And since the report is for your intended users, it should be written using common references rather than obscure ones, so that you don't mislead the reader. Most of the MBs, LOs and underwriters I've talked to don't have the smarts to figure out whether 2.5 baths means 2 and 1/2 or 2full and 5 half baths.

 

[Scott Kibler]

A house with two full bathrooms and two half bathroom might be reported as three full bathrooms (1 +1 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 3) on a software form; appraisal, MLS or other.

Reporting half baths as "0.1" would yield "2.2" (1 + 1 + 0.1 + 0.1)which is easily read as two full bathrooms and two half bathrooms.

 

[Charles Witt]

I just appraised a 75 year old victorian home that has a toliet in a room off the kitchen, a shower and sink in a room off the stairway landing, a bath and another half on the second floor and a half bath on the third floor. for my report it was a bath and two halves (1:2).

Maybe I should give some quarter bath credit!

 

[JTip]

I too was stumped by this question a couple months ago and received many good responses.....although it did get a bit off track
http://appraisersforum.com/urgent-help-needed/104561-counting-multiple-bathrooms.html

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[Restrain]

Some people show it as 2.1, some 2.5. Sometimes it's 4/2 (4 full, 2 half). I personally prefer the 2.5 as an appraiser. However, so long as you are consistent and explain what you are doing, you're not going to get into trouble.

 

[Smokey Bear]

Okay, splain this one to me. I've lived in many Victorians (I love them). I've had the split bathrooms with the toilet in one room, and the shower and sink in the other.

Who though up the brilliant idea of putting the toilet in a different room from the sink?????? Is this an oversight by guys who built the house cuz they don't wash when they're done anyway and didn't consider that some people might want to wash their hands before using the doorknob, etc.? And then they have to wait cuz someone is in the shower, or they have to wash in the kitchen sink and <yuck> some idiots would then dry their hands on the dish towel.

It makes a lot more sense to have the shower in one room, and the sink and toilet in the other room. That way people can use the toilet and brush their teeth while someone is showering. <if you don't like the person in the shower, do both at the same time, with lots of water running, and make sure to flush at least twice> (Where's the evil grin emoticon? This guy isn't evil enough.)

 

[Mike Kennedy]

Remove all doubt Full = 1 Half = 0.5 Quarter = 0.25 or IF Client prefers .............. 1F 1H 1Q

 

[Christine Marie]

okay, the plot thickens....

i did one years ago, that had an additional sink {only} in the master dressing/closet area, accessible from both the bath entry and bedroom entry area.

then, without knowingly doing so, i submitted that one to my board for my upgrade from licensed to certified... as i am sitting there in the board room, someone asked, what is .25 bath, then i remembered the additional sink, so i translated and conveyed to the best of my ability what a .25 bath is, my only save was one of the board members from the district north of me, says, yup, we have builders that put that extra sink in as well...

the only advantage to this additional sink would be the liberty of brushing ones teeth without an additional person in the room....

 

[Mike Kennedy]

C- "what is .25 bath, then i remembered the additional sink, so i translated and conveyed to the best of my ability what a .25 bath is, my only save was one of the board members from the district north of me, says, yup, we have builders that put that extra sink in as well..."

sorry forgot to mention .......explanation comment should always be on page one or comments addendum "subject additional features" or "bathoom analysis" - ooops.