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Making a Map is now "Surveying without a License"? Only in California

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I do site plans which usually include lot lines when the parcels are small enough. But I already know I can render similar utility in my diagrams - I can just use aerials from the County GIS which show where the structures and other improvements are.
 
George Hatch said:
I do site plans which usually include lot lines when the parcels are small enough. But I already know I can render similar utility in my diagrams - I can just use aerials from the County GIS which show where the structures and other improvements are.
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How do you know that is were the lot lines are? Fence or tree lines are often not on the lot line.
 
You're right, I don't know. My diagram is for illustrative purposes to enable the reader to visualize the property.

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Clearly the video was 1 sided, I'd be interested to hear the arguments. And what his service is being used for. If he's just making maps with no real liability, then I guess it's ok. but even for simple things like putting a pool in a yard, I was required to get a survey. And that should be required.

I'm generally in favor of protecting the value of a license. We see similar things with tech start ups doing appraisal work w/o an appraisal license.

Edit: I just browsed the site. It appears he's doing full site plans/surveys for actual homes with property corners, etc. I can't imagine any permit board would accept that w/o a survey stamp attached.
 
chad hampton said:
Clearly the video was 1 sided, I'd be interested to hear the arguments. And what his service is being used for. If he's just making maps with no real liability, then I guess it's ok. but even for simple things like putting a pool in a yard, I was required to get a survey. And that should be required.

I'm generally in favor of protecting the value of a license. We see similar things with tech start ups doing appraisal work w/o an appraisal license.

Edit: I just browsed the site. It appears he's doing full site plans/surveys for actual homes with property corners, etc. I can't imagine any permit board would accept that w/o a survey stamp attached.
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AI is going to destroy many licensed professions in a very short period of time. ie: AVMS, Legal Zoom, and this particular survey deal. The world is going to be ran by very few insanely rich people.

I read something today that John Jacob Astor was one of the wealthiest men in the world when he went down with the Titanic. They estimated his net world in todays dollars at, like, 2.4 Billion. Richest people now are worth 50,80,200+ billion and control 98% of the worlds wealth. They make fun of Trump for only being worth 2-3 billion. Something has gone very wrong.

Google is finna be the new Kodak with OpenAi and ChatGPT, ETAL. Tech/AI over the next ten years is going to change society more than the internet did 98'-09'. I am forcing my kids into careers involving heavy human interaction. No one else is gonna have a job.
 
I expect there to be a major tech backlash sooner rather than later. I just hope it’s not violent.

There’s a reason that any sort of talk about tech taking over people’s livelihoods always includes a universal basic income aspect of it. You’re not going to put people on the streets and in the poor House and let a handful of people that own tech companies become wealthy. that’s a recipe for disaster.
 
I am following this California case closely since I offer a somewhat related service. GIS professionals are also keeping a close eye on this.

In addition to other data, the drawings at issue in this case show property lines, existing buildings and distances from existing buildings to property lines. It is that distance data that caused the California survey board to issue the citation for unlicensed surveying. I am not guessing when I say that - I read the briefs.

Consider a homeowner who needs a siteplan to add a deck. The property was previously surveyed and a fence built on the property line. By the exact same reasoning that the California survey board is applying to the MySitePlan drawings, this hypothetical homeowner must hire a surveyor to measure from their house to the fence on the property line.

One of the allegations in the lawsuit filed by MySitePlan is that the California statute defining land surveying is unconstitutional for the reason that the scope of activity encompassed by the definition is overly broad.
 
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