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Properties used to Complete Form 1004MC

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AndrewBiz

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I had an issue with...you guessed it a low appraisal value for a re-finance which will now result in paying mortgage insurance (81% loan to value to add salt to the wound). At any rate I reviewed the appraisal in detail and noticed what appears to be a major error in calculating the time value adjustment on the report. This discovery resulted in me sending the below letter to the appraisal company and lender (I hope to attached the refernced exhibits to this post). Long story short the appraiser is sticking to their valuation. My next step is to report them to the state license board but would like any feedback on the merits of my positions before proceeding. If anyone has other thoughts on my best course of action that would be appreciated as well.

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing in concern to an appraisal (File No. XYZ) prepared by your firm in connection with the refinance of my residence at 123 Main Street in Anytown, USA. The nature of my inquiry is in regards to the property data used to develop the Market Conditions Addendum (MCA) to the Appraisal Report (Fannie Mae Form 1004MC).

On June 10, 2009 at approximately 3:00 pm I placed a phone call to your office and spoke with the woman that answered the phone. During this call I requested that the property data used to complete form 1004MC be provided to me so I can validate the information contained on the form; this request was denied. Upon being denied the information I then questioned if I was supposed to simply “assume the data is correct”. The answer I received was that I should assume the data is accurate because it was compiled by a professional appraiser.

Subsequent to my request being denied I was able to ascertain the dataset used to complete form 1004MC. Upon review of said dataset I was able to confirm my suspicion that the dataset used to complete form 1004MC contained flawed data. The instructions for form 1004MC states, “Sales and listings must be properties that compete with the subject property, determined by applying the criteria that would be used by a prospective buyer of the subject property.” It is clear by reviewing the sales data that at least three (3) of the properties contained in the prior 7-12 Months time frame do not compete with the subject property and should not have been included in the dataset. Refer to Exhibit A for information on these properties and a narrative explaining why the properties do not compete with the subject property. The inclusion of the Exhibit A properties in the MCA dataset created “outlier” sales (sales which are far above or below the neighborhood norms). The use of medians (as recommended on form 1004MC) rather than average sales data would have minimized the impact of the outliers (refer to Exhibit B, column B). The decision of the Appraiser to use average sale prices rather than median prices made it extremely important to filter the dataset to include only properties that compete with the subject property; this important step was not done. The inclusion of the these “outlier” properties artificially inflated the average sale prices during the 7-12 month time frame thus creating a perceived 24% decline in average sale prices over the past year (a classic example of “garbage in, garbage out”). This erroneous 24% decline was then applied to Comparable Sale No. 2 and 3 respectively on the URAR. This error devalued the comparable sales.

When the aforementioned “outlier” properties are not included in the dataset the resulting declining sale price over the past year based on average sale prices is 17% (refer to Exhibit B, column C) rather that the 24% decline applied to the comparable properties in the Sales Comparison Approach section of the URAR. To complete Form 1004MC per the explicit instructions (removing non-competing properties and using the median sale prices) the decline over the past year is 12% (refer to Exhibit B, column D) versus the 24% decline applied to comparable properties in the URAR. The net result of using an erroneous 24% declining market adjustment in the URAR is illustrated in Exhibit C.

As I highlighted in the opening of this correspondence I was unable to have a meaningful dialog with anyone to express my concerns with the appraisal. Therefore, I am providing this information in confidence that the information I bring forth will warrant a correction and modification of the appraisal. I am requesting that the Date of Sale/Time adjustment line item be corrected based on the corrected market decline rate and the subject property appraisal be revised based on the corrected information.

In closing please be advised that this is not a request to change a subjective opinion but merely to correct an error in the data collected which in turn was used to develop an erroneous appraisal. It should be noted that failure to address the issues contained in this correspondence may constitute an intentional, negligent misrepresentation in the appraisal report which can result in civil liability and/or criminal penalties under the provisions of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001 or similar state laws.

As you are aware real estate transactions are a time sensitive matter and your prompt response is greatly appreciated. Should you have any questions concerning the data contained in this correspondence please contact me at your earliest convenience.

Sincerely,

Joe Homeowner
 
Dear Joe Homeowner,

Thank you for your correspondence which must be directed to the Lender/Client purusant to the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP 2008 Edition" to whit:

Confidentiality:​
An appraiser must protect the confidential nature of the appraiser-client relationship.
An appraiser must act in good faith with regard to the legitimate interests of the client in the use of confidential information and in the communication of assignment results.
An appraiser must be aware of, and comply with, all confidentiality and privacy laws and regulations applicable in an assignment.
An appraiser must not disclose confidential information or assignment results prepared for a client to anyone other than the client and persons specifically authorized by the client;​

Should my Client request a response to their inquiry, it will be communicated forthwith to the Client.

Sincerely,

Ethical Appraiser
 
Without seeing your exhibits my comments can only be of a limited nature.

The time adjustment does not have to be based solely on the data on the 1004MC form. The appraiser has the authority to include other relevant data to support their opinion of the effect of time. If the other data is reasonable that would be a proper methodology.

Given the way you wrote your letter I am assuming you have a strong background in statistics. That is a pure science. Appraising is a combination of art and science. An appraiser's results are measured in terms of "is it credible", not "is it exact."
 
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I hate to play devils advocate but how do you know what the search parameters for the MC were? I am an appraiser and I have trouble reviewing other appraisers MC form. The second thing is a 7% difference in declining value is a HUGE swing based on a few properties. How many properties were in the MC were listed in the 1st grid box marked total # of comparables. Could you post the #'s in the grid and maybe I can be of better assistance? How do you know that those properties should not have been used.? The problem is if you narrow your search too much you do not get enough data to make an educated determination of the market.
The second thing is sometimes that form does not fit unique properties. I live in a pretty populated area and have not checked all the boxes on the form for certain properties. The powers to be want you to fit a round peg into form that is designed for a square peg.
What search parameters are you using to get your rate of decline vs. the appraisers? Do you have access to the same sources? The reason I asked is in my market the rate of decline differs from month to month. I am located in a violatile market.
I do two analysis on my neighborhood. I run an analysis on every property in the neighborhood and the run one with competing properties for the MC form.
 
I don't even know what to say, get in line with your complaint, most lenders, mortgage broker, realtors and appraisers, either don't understand, don't like or think the 1004MC is useless. However you are either a lawyer or an appraiser as you seem to have a complete grasp of it, if you want an appraiser to put a narrative section on every part of the appraisal that should be about a $900 to $1,500 appraisal.

The appraiser may have done a good job on your appraisal and he may not have, if he/she didn't all I can tell the general public is get used to it. First the 1004mc was crammed down our throat, the the HVCC, appraisers are going to leaving the industry in droves over the next year or two. The thing I love is the whole "my appraisal came in low" have you ever thought that the appraiser actually just did an appraisal, I know that may sound crazy, but maybe he/she just did their job and wasn't concerned about your LTV or that you now have to have PMI, call me crazy but that may have happened.

The Ask an Appraiser part of this forum should just be changed to "My appraisal came in low" or "My appraisal is bad and full of errors" the funny thing is I have yet to see someone come on here and make a complaint about their appraisal if their "number" came in, just if they think it's low! The whole HVCC was suppose to be because all us bad appraisers were appraising properties way high, now everyone is moaning and complaining because they think they are to low, waiting tables or finding another part time job is looking better ever minute at this point.:shrug:
 
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I really don't see how the 1004 MC form affects the value estimate in the appraisal. The 1004 MC is an addendum to the report. If I were you I would look at the comparable sales used in the appraisal report as well as checking the accuracy of the subject property information.

In any event a 1% difference is within the acceptable margin of error. If I were you I would have the appraisal report reviewed or obtain a new appraisal report and request PMI elimination. I should add that you were free to contact a different lender if you were not satisfied with your current lenders terms.
 
:rof::rof::rof: It always amazes me how many are experts at doing appraisals, more so than those who are licensed to do so. With that way of thinking, since I am not a licensed physician, I must be an expert when it comes to brain or open heart surgery.
 
I hate to play devils advocate but how do you know what the search parameters for the MC were? I am an appraiser and I have trouble reviewing other appraisers MC form. The second thing is a 7% difference in declining value is a HUGE swing based on a few properties. How many properties were in the MC were listed in the 1st grid box marked total # of comparables. Could you post the #'s in the grid and maybe I can be of better assistance? How do you know that those properties should not have been used.? The problem is if you narrow your search too much you do not get enough data to make an educated determination of the market.
The second thing is sometimes that form does not fit unique properties. I live in a pretty populated area and have not checked all the boxes on the form for certain properties. The powers to be want you to fit a round peg into form that is designed for a square peg.
What search parameters are you using to get your rate of decline vs. the appraisers? Do you have access to the same sources? The reason I asked is in my market the rate of decline differs from month to month. I am located in a violatile market.
I do two analysis on my neighborhood. I run an analysis on every property in the neighborhood and the run one with competing properties for the MC form.

Thank you for the response to my post. I will try and give you as much of the info as possible but I can't seem to upload the exhibits that along with my letter. If you know what I can do to upload the exhibits let me know, in the meantime here is the info...

1. I was able to determine the dataset used on the MC by searching MLS with the same parameters the appraisal stated which is all single family properties that sold for $250,000 and up. When I ran that search I came up with the exact same inventory analysis as the MC. The prior 7 - 12 month period included 26 properties with an average sale price of $396,068; the prior 4 - 6 month period contained 3 properties with an average sale price of $354,967; the current - 3 month period has 4 properties with an average sale price of $300,000.

2. The reason I am certain that three of the properties in the 7 - 12 month grid should not have been included is the following...the subject property is a 3 bedroom, 2-1/2 bath colonial consisting of 2,228 sf. The first of the 3 properties in question is also a single family residence but it also includes full equestrian facilities that consists of a 70' x 130' indoor horse riding arena and associated stables, the property sold for $810,000. The second property in question is 4,100 sf which is 79% larger than mine, the appraisal stated that is did not include a property on my street in the comps section of the URAR because it was 27% larger than mine, if 27% larger is not a comp than how can they use a property 79% larger for the MC, it is totally contradictory, that property sold for $629,900. The third property is another equestrian facility that in addition to a single family residence includes a separate 4 stall barn, paddocks, and a 114' x 60' riding ring, this property sold for $565,000.

3. In order to calculate the rate of decline all the appraiser did was calculate the percentage difference in the average sale prices of the 7-12 month time frame from the current-3 month time frame. My issue is the 7-12 month time frame was artificially inflated by the three properties that should not have been included. When the three questionable properties are dropped from the dataset the decline is more in line with the market. As my letter stated it really is just garbage in resulting in garbage out.

Sorry for having to type out all the data, the exhibits will make it much easier, hopefully I can get them posted. Again I really appreciate your feedback on this and look forward to your additional expertise.

Thanks again.
 
Subsequent to my request being denied I was able to ascertain the dataset used to complete form 1004MC

How did you do that? I want to know because I can't even figure it out on reviews when I have the appraisal in front of me. How did you figure out what the outliers were? I have something to learn here and it looks like you can teach me.
 
I would like to point out that comparing a six month average to a three month average to ascertain a rate of decline is not reasonable.

Are you sure this is where the appraiser came up with the rate of decline statistic?

Because I live in an area where virtually all of the housing inventory is unique, my definition of comparable is sometimes expanded.

However, I do not rely on the 1004MC for my statistical analysis, I run different data sets which can include annual, six month, or quarterly statistics depending upon the volume of sales in the area.

Did you review the entire report, especially the Neighborhood Market Characteristics section and the Comments on Sales Comparison? These two sections are where I typically summarize the market activity, with details regarding stable/increase/decline and the market condition adjustment.
 
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