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Carrieann72

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We are in the process of refinancing our home. We had an appraisal, which came in low. We bought the mid century gem in original state and have installed new high end kitchen, new Furnace, new lighting, 100% new solid surface flooring, the list goes in. I spoke with the lender, who has indicated we have little recourse. The low appraisal will not effect our loan, but it seems very shady. In addition, we had 2 things to finish in the kitchen and then the appraiser will come back out. He called my husband and told him to just send a couple of photos. I am looking for honest, professional opinions. Something does not smell right about this.
 
In addition, we had 2 things to finish in the kitchen and then the appraiser will come back out. He called my husband and told him to just send a couple of photos.
Is the lender requiring the appraiser to complete a "final inspection"? (ask if they are requiring a "Fannie Mae Form 1004D Certification of Completion")

If the answer is yes, the appraiser is supposed to come back out and perform a visual inspection of the property again to determine if the conditions/requirements of the original appraisal have been satisfied

Most lenders require new pics
Best of luck to you
 
What is “low”? FYI, general ROI on home improvements (especially if completed by contractors) is approx. 50-65% in this market area, for the improvements you mentioned here.
 
We could not say if the appraisal is "low" or simply lower than desired. One can put in a lot of upgrades that do not equal an increase in value. For instance, often mechanical updates simply bring the house up to code. Buyers expect a furnace to work and windows to keep out the elements, and a roof not to leak. Those repairs are maintenance issues and often do not get anywhere near the cost in return on investment. Cosmetics tend to have more bang for the buck, but at the same time, could be non-starters as well.

Something I am seeing right now in my neighborhood is that condominium units that are fully upgraded/updated, set the higher prices, and the dated units are priced almost at the same price and then sell due to lack of inventory. For flippers to make money, the key is the buy, getting a really good deal, and then to not overdo it on the remodel. As a MCM, there may have been a lot of appeal in the original condition as well, in particular if there were some really stunning tilework replaced with modern stuff that ends up dated next season. Those barn doors (not saying that is what you have) are starting to become passe as well.

HGTV has changed residential real estate trends in many areas.

With regard to your situation, talk with the lender and find out why this is not something that can be looked at? Appraisers are humans (for now) and can have errors, but if the appraisal is well supported, the lender will tell you so and why, if it is something that is difficult to figure out on your own (as you are the consumer, not the intended user of the report, and it was developed and written for the appraisers client, the lender).

Finally, for a final inspection, the appraiser needs to go out and look for themself.
 
was the appraisal ordered through an AMC. maybe you should start there.

post the appraisal. the reviewers here will love it. :)
 
The value has to be market supported. No more PFA
 
Can’t comment about the value but the “just send me pictures” tells me this appraiser needs to reevaluate his profession! A 1004D is the form used for a final inspection and the appraiser signs a certification that he personally inspected the work. He will be fine with committing fraud. I know you want your loan so don’t want to make waves but you are paying for the reinspection. I would tell him to come out and take his own pictures and if he refuses, report him to the lender.
 
Thank you all for your replies. I have moved away from Quicken. The Appraisers are in house so when I talked to Quicken about it, they really did not care.
 
Thank you all for your replies. I have moved away from Quicken. The Appraisers are in house so when I talked to Quicken about it, they really did not care.
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Thank you all for your replies. I have moved away from Quicken. The Appraisers are in house so when I talked to Quicken about it, they really did not care.
i think you should take the same attitude if it didn't affect the loan. are you so sure you car mechanic did everything perfectly, or any other person you deal with. just wasted mental energy on your part. you can get your revenge by making the appraiser take his own pictures.
 
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