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Rocket Mortgage Sued

gregb

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Based on the article, could there actually be a smoking gun....
(With access to the appraisal company's other appraisals, sounds like a sting)....
 
An ongoing story. Think of the details and implications though. So much for client confidentiality because on the GSE level, investigators apparently have instant access to the appraisal repositories.

You don't understand Denver and what these places are like. There is a block by block differential where one side is standard regular homes, the others are custom homes with tremendous hundreds of thousands of value dollars difference. And sometimes they're intermingled so after time you learn about these patterns, that if you land one of the orders for a regular amid the customs, they tend to comp out more on this area then that, and vice versa. Not to mention the consistent 2/3rds ratio of land value being higher than home value, unless you're into the customs but even then it's often half and half.

There is no white area or black area in these communities like one might presume, just pockets of yuppies and urban folk congregating in micro pockets not but blocks away from each other.

Mykhailyna appraised the property to be over $200,000 lower than an appraisal on the same property that had been completed less than a year before, a more than 25% decrease at a time of rising home values in the Denver.

That's probably because the appraiser prior had over valued the property that much is the more likely situation. Probably chasing down a realtors figures based on flawed Denver based MLS Corelogic Realist avm estimates which are known for presenting six digit possible price ranges.

Don't worry, the lender and AMC will crawl out of this mess by dumping the entire thing on the appraiser and leave the appraiser with the full burden of all investigative and representative costs.
 
Based on the article, could there actually be a smoking gun....
(With access to the appraisal company's other appraisals, sounds like a sting)....
Could very well be. The appraisal company the appraiser in question is CEO of (with a total of 10 years experience) says it covers 23 states. If they have staff appraisers in all of those states. They might want to be looking over their shoulders

 
An ongoing story. Think of the details and implications though. So much for client confidentiality because on the GSE level, investigators apparently have instant access to the appraisal repositories.

You don't understand Denver and what these places are like. There is a block by block differential where one side is standard regular homes, the others are custom homes with tremendous hundreds of thousands of value dollars difference. And sometimes they're intermingled so after time you learn about these patterns, that if you land one of the orders for a regular amid the customs, they tend to comp out more on this area then that, and vice versa. Not to mention the consistent 2/3rds ratio of land value being higher than home value, unless you're into the customs but even then it's often half and half.

There is no white area or black area in these communities like one might presume, just pockets of yuppies and urban folk congregating in micro pockets not but blocks away from each other.

Mykhailyna appraised the property to be over $200,000 lower than an appraisal on the same property that had been completed less than a year before, a more than 25% decrease at a time of rising home values in the Denver.

That's probably because the appraiser prior had over valued the property that much is the more likely situation. Probably chasing down a realtors figures based on flawed Denver based MLS Corelogic Realist avm estimates which are known for presenting six digit possible price ranges.

Don't worry, the lender and AMC will crawl out of this mess by dumping the entire thing on the appraiser and leave the appraiser with the full burden of all investigative and representative costs.
Those AVMs are even worse when there is such drastic differences like you say block by block. They do not understand quality.

Also if its a house on the lower end of the spectrum the appraiser might of had to use comps further in distance. I highly doubt its a case that the appraiser did this to discriminate, but I don't have all the facts.
 
I've said it before, but if the property sold recently and the market data is showing a lot lower than it sold for in a refinance, its not worth whatever fee you are getting when you have the risk of this. I don't care if its a slam dunk cookie cutter.

Of course in this case it could of been a refi a year ago, so never know for sure. Sure makes appraisals in these areas riskier.
 
Appears there's quite a bit of $$$$$$ to be had playing the bias card, no what your background is.
 
Looking at the old threat this is a duplex. Probably not a big difference in custom/quality for these, but I don't know Denver. I'd also say for a 2-4 location is not as important as a SFR, so a more distance comp that is more similar might be better, but the complaint also says there were large adjustments. Hopefully these other homes they are claiming s/he used closer comps for are also duplexes.
 
even the Zillow and Redfin don't agree on a value. Redifin is close to the appraiser's value and Zillow is close to the previous value.
 
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