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Sketching Functional Obsolescence

juck224

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Hello, I have a quick question in regards to a floor plan sketch when functional obsolescence is present. I am aware of the necessity to sketch the floor plan with walls in such cases where there is functional obsolescence present per Fannie. However, I am wondering if the entire house floor plan sketch is needed, or only where it illustrates such obsolescence. I am working on a report where the second floor has a walk-through bedroom, and I have the entire second floor floor-plan with all walls sketched out. The first floor has no obsolescence, is it necessary to also sketch all walls on the first floor as well? Thanks for the help, I am hoping not because it would be a real PITA for this one to sketch out the first floor floor plan with all walls.
 
I do not know the answer, so imo send it in the way it is- if they ask you to fill in the rooms for the first floor, you can always do it later if they ask. Hopefully, they won't!..

Perhaps to make it clear, put a label on the sketch: "Second floor, rooms delineated to show functional obselsence of bedroom 2" (for example )
 
I do not know the answer, so imo send it in the way it is- if they ask you to fill in the rooms for the first floor, you can always do it later if they ask. Hopefully, they won't!..

Perhaps to make it clear, put a label on the sketch: "Second floor, rooms delineated to show functional obselsence of bedroom 2" (for example )
I think this is what I will end up doing, I always label rooms on all floors regardless, I just don't sketch walls and doors usually of course, I am going to send it with the second floor walls delineated and see if they send it back, I have the full plans but this would be a real pain to sketch and I'd rather avoid if if I can haha, thanks!
 
I do not know the answer, so imo send it in the way it is- if they ask you to fill in the rooms for the first floor, you can always do it later if they ask. Hopefully, they won't!..

Perhaps to make it clear, put a label on the sketch: "Second floor, rooms delineated to show functional obselsence of bedroom 2" (for example )
I add an arrow in the appraisal sketch that points to the source of FO, sometimes with a note to "Refer to BlahBlahBlah section of the 1004."
 
Hello, I have a quick question in regards to a floor plan sketch when functional obsolescence is present. I am aware of the necessity to sketch the floor plan with walls in such cases where there is functional obsolescence present per Fannie. However, I am wondering if the entire house floor plan sketch is needed, or only where it illustrates such obsolescence. I am working on a report where the second floor has a walk-through bedroom, and I have the entire second floor floor-plan with all walls sketched out. The first floor has no obsolescence, is it necessary to also sketch all walls on the first floor as well? Thanks for the help, I am hoping not because it would be a real PITA for this one to sketch out the first floor floor plan with all walls.
Per Fannie, they are not clear about the whole house, only the rooms affected.

My question is, who and how did you get clients that don’t require a room layout? Way back when I was an itty bitty appraiser about 30 years ago, I had one client who didn’t require a room layout. It was weird! All my clients require a layout. I must admit, I am glad. There have been several times that I sketch the layout during inspection and then get back to the office and have a, “wait a minute!” moment.
 
Per Fannie, they are not clear about the whole house, only the rooms affected.

My question is, who and how did you get clients that don’t require a room layout? Way back when I was an itty bitty appraiser about 30 years ago, I had one client who didn’t require a room layout. It was weird! All my clients require a layout. I must admit, I am glad. There have been several times that I sketch the layout during inspection and then get back to the office and have a, “wait a minute!” moment.
I used to draw a beautiful floor plans and took pride in them. And I kept doing work like that even as appraisers who hit every number and facilitated every dishonest gift program money back financing scheme out there without sketching the interiors started eating into my client base. However, when the industry went to rotation panels and I was getting no more assignments from all the extra work I was doing I eventually succumbed to the banality of socialism and stopped drawing interior floor plans along with the rest of them. That was a long time ago.
 
Hello, I have a quick question in regards to a floor plan sketch when functional obsolescence is present. I am aware of the necessity to sketch the floor plan with walls in such cases where there is functional obsolescence present per Fannie. However, I am wondering if the entire house floor plan sketch is needed, or only where it illustrates such obsolescence. I am working on a report where the second floor has a walk-through bedroom, and I have the entire second floor floor-plan with all walls sketched out. The first floor has no obsolescence, is it necessary to also sketch all walls on the first floor as well? Thanks for the help, I am hoping not because it would be a real PITA for this one to sketch out the first floor floor plan with all walls.
Necessary according to who (or should that be whom)? If you are in doubt.. .do more. it going to take you a very few minutes to sketch the first floor plan.
 
I label the rooms on the sketch and only draw the lines of the rooms in the rare cases of funct obs.
 
In EVERY sketch I show interior walls, doors, appliances/fixtures in kitchens and baths to show flow and placement, fireplaces and garage doors.

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Takes 15 minutes.
 
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