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Under Construction or Existing Construction

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C REA

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Existing or Under Construction,

As was previously listed in a similar thread regarding USDA, HUDs
Construction Definitions are as follows:

Proposed Construction
are properties approved for mortgage insurance prior to the beginning of construction, defined as the first placement of concrete or other permanent materials. This means that the DE Statement of Appraised Value or Early Start letter has been issued by the DE Underwriter for the property prior to the first placement of concrete or other permanent materials.


Under Construction
are those properties in which the first placement of concrete or other permanent materials has begun, but construction is not yet 100% complete.


Existing Construction
properties that are 100% complete at the time of appraisal. "Complete" means everything is complete including the installation of buyer preferences (flooring, appliances, etc.), utilities are on and fully functioning and all site improvements completed at the time of appraisal (Ready for Occupancy). If no repair or correction conditions are made by the appraiser, the appraisal serves as the final inspection as per
HUD Handbook 4145.1 Paragraph 6-3-A(3).

However, HUD also provides the following definitions:

Existing Construction: Property is at least one year old at the time of the appraisal.Proposed Construction: Property is approved for FHA mortgage insurance prior to the beginning of construction.Under Construction: Construction is under way but is not completed at the time of the appraisal.

Existing Construction Less Than One-Year Old: Property is less than one year old at the time of the appraisal.

This guidance appears to conflict with the preceding definitions.

Specifically addressing whether to report a property as Existing or Under Construction.

A property that is 100% complete and say six months old, which is correct?

The first definition classifies an Existing property as one that is 100% complete. But the latter classifies an Existing property as one that is at least one year old.


There is no check box for Existing Construction less than one year old.
 
C'mon, use some common sense.

Existing = 100% complete, PERIOD.

Check the "Existing" box and place the actual age (0-1) in the next field.

If the intended user cannot figure that out its their problem.
 
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Common Sense?

Well mister common sense, you are so smart you should get your instructors certification.
Did you not read the second definition of Existing Construction?
Existing Construction: Property is at least one year old at the time of the appraisal.
You might also like to know that at a HUD seminar I attended in 2007, their position was, and I quote:
"Up to one year old = "Under Construction"
"One year and one day = "Existing"

Now what do have to say? Gee I hope it's something really witty.
 
Well mister common sense, you are so smart you should get your instructors certification.
Did you not read the second definition of Existing Construction?
Existing Construction: Property is at least one year old at the time of the appraisal.
You might also like to know that at a HUD seminar I attended in 2007, their position was, and I quote:

"Up to one year old = "Under Construction"

"One year and one day = "Existing"

Now what do have to say? Gee I hope it's something really witty.

Don't know if its "really witty", but it is more "reasonable and supportable".

The "HUD seminar" definition of "Under Construction" you cite above is laughable AND even more importantly MISLEADING. You know, that little USPAP thing that gets appraisers in trouble?

Let me get this straight (according to HUD), a house that was in fact 100% complete on 01/01/2011 is really still "Under Construction" until 01/01/2012? :laugh:

It's not a coincidence I have not accepted an FHA New Construction assignment in 15 years.
 
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A property is finished on the day the completion certificate is issued .. at which point it could be one day old but still complete ......

Definitions aside .. you have existing construction if ALL the improvements are complete. Guidelines are your friend if you simply will use them instead of trying to find contradictions .... it is what it is ... and what you describe is Complete Existing Construction .....
 
Under Const / Existing Const

This is not an issue for an assignment, it is just an inconsistency I am aware of.

I have recently submitted the question to HUD and thought I would post it on the forum while I wait to see if some of the knowledgeable appraisers had any insight on the issue. But as is often the case, it is the smart asses that chime in first.

This forum is an awesome resource and there really is no place for the BS comments but I am in the minority on that subject.

In any event, when performing FHA appraisals you follow HUD's guidance, not what seems to make the most sense to you. If you have to provide additional commentary so as not to be misleading, then that's what you do.

Things may have changed since 2007, so when I get a response from HUD I will post it, for those that care.
 
Geez .... use the regulations to your benefit .... there are many inconsistencies ... if you have time to find them all and ask or claification or request they be changed good for you ... they are not as easily changed as you may think.

Im just saying .. use what you find to your benefit. Smart *****e$ aside .........
 
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