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Unknown contract dates

NJ Valuator

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How do you determine the nonlinear price trend when the contract dates are not known? For example, new construction and the builder does not list the properties in the MLS.
 
How do you determine the nonlinear price trend when the contract dates are not known? For example, new construction and the builder does not list the properties in the MLS.
If you're forced to analyze that data set then you have to use the best information you have. You will have to use the recorded date instead of the contracted date and disclose the reason why.
 
Yea, pre sold stuff can be long ago signed. But, like above, you can only do what you can prove. I would have a comment about unknown dates. On spark you can use either date.

Curious, do you add them to your 1004mc, if still doing it.
 
About half of the builders don't not put any sales in the MLS. For the ones that do, I still call and verify. Most are presales are put in as for comps only.

The issue is that our MLS has a policy with presales and the builders do not put in the actual contract date due to the MLS rules.

As for non MLS new homes, I contact the builder and get the data....contract date, sc, upgrades, lot premium, etc.

As for adjustments, I ask how they are adjusting the base prices. Monthly, quarterly, etc.

I also get the base prices for comps and for older sales from the pud, even though I may not use them. I then compare what the base prices currently are.

I try to get a print off of the summary page. The builder may be keeping the base prices stable or are increasing them, but are offering free upgrades, incentives or seller conessions....they try not to **** of prior owners by lowering the base price.

As others have said, most presales have contract dates +_6 months. Therefore you have to verify with the builder.

When I can't, I have a trick...pull the permit. It is usually on or 1 month prior/1 month after. Of course if it is a builder spec and the contract was signed during the construction phase, the permit date trick want help.

If you use alamode, use their comp sharing feature. What stinks, is that if they are not in the MLS....appraisers will not use them, therefore they will not be in alamodes comp sharing data base. They only use the builders cherry picked MLS sales. Sad.
 
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I never consider adjusting market conditions based on contract date.
I did it once when reviewer wanted that done. WTF.
Was it their lender rule to adjust contract date. Silly but did it anyway and didn't change my appraised value.
 
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I never consider adjusting market conditions based on contract date.
I did it once when reviewer wanted that done. WTF.
Was it their lender rule to adjust contract date. Silly but did it anyway and didn't change my appraised value.
er made their decison on the contract date based on market conditions at that time. They didn't make that decision at the closing table
 
How do you determine the nonlinear price trend when the contract dates are not known? For example, new construction and the builder does not list the properties in the MLS.
Then you use the settlement dates and you comment why you had to do it that way.
 
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