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When is an assignment complete.

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Frederick R. Ruffell

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I will be arguing with an appraiser employed a large AMC tomorrow. At issue is a request to review additional documents (i.e. counter offers) not supplied to the appraiser prior to the completion of the appraisal report, delivery to the client (AMC), and acceptance by the client, and the client delivering the Report to the lender.

I initially requested the purchase agreement but none was forthcoming. I completed the appraisal report and delivered to the client. Did not pass review and was asked to "correct" appraisal report. Purchase contract was supplied and I negoatiated an additionl fee based on the additional work. Upon reviewing the purchase contract I noted that there was a counter offer (check box at signature) in the deal but none was included in the documentation. I noted this and amended the purchase price to match the purchase agreement and the dates etc. and delivererd the amended report. It passed the clients review and was sent on to the lender. Appraisal assignment was removed from my que on their web portal. A day later the lender has requested that I review now 2 counter offers. The AMC is requesting that also.

I am requesting an additional fee and sighting a new scope of work = a new assignment = a new fee.
Well it got kicked upstairs to an Appraiser... About time I thought... somebody that knows about this stuff. Well not so.

He sites Scope of work rule and other USPAP as follows:

"Dealing with such a request does not constitute a “new assignment”. That would be true if there were a new client, or if the effective date of the appraiser were changing. But a change in the Scope of Work, or in this case a following through on the original Scope of Work with information not previously available, would not mean it becomes a new assignment. (See USPAP Scope of Work Rule where it says “Determining the scope of work is an ongoing process in an assignment. Information or conditions discovered during the course of an assignment might cause the appraiser to reconsider the scope of work”, and USPAP Advisory Opinion 28 on Page A-95 in Example 6 where the type of property and Scope changed but didn’t create a new assignment, and USPAP FAQ 135 “Does Changing the Sale Price Result in a New Assignment”.)"

My contention here is that key word is "during". The assignment was complete once I delivered the assignment results (i.e. Appraisal report).
I am going to point out USPSP FAQ 155:

"155. CHANGING THE SCOPE OF WORK AFTER THE REPORT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED
Question: Sometimes after submitting my appraisal report, my client will ask me to perform
additional work. This can mean looking at more or different comparables or
developing another approach. Do these requests for additional work create a new
assignment?
Response: No. Requests to perform additional research or analysis change the scope of work, but do notcreate a new assignment. The additional work can be performed as part of the original assignment. The appraiser may decide, as a business decision, to treat the request for additional research and analysis as a new assignment, but it is not required."

USPAP FAQ 190:

"190. PURCHASE CONTRACT IS NOT PROVIDED TO THE APPRAISER
Question: I was recently engaged to conduct a market value appraisal of a one-to-four unit
residential property. The intended use of this appraisal is to assist the client in
analyzing the loan collateral associated with the property’s purchase. I requested a
copy of the purchase contract from the client, but they refused to provide it
although they acknowledged that a contract for purchase of the property in fee
simple exists. They did, however, provide a sale price orally. Can I continue this
assignment, without the purchase contract, and comply with USPAP?
Response: Yes. You can complete the assignment in compliance with USPAP; however, you will need to
ensure compliance with Standards Rule 1-5(a) in developing the appraisal, and with Standards
Rule 2-2(a)(viii), (b)(viii), or (c)(viii), as applicable to the type of appraisal report determined
most appropriate, given the intended users, in reporting the assignment results...."

And USPAP FAQ 191:

"191. AVAILABILITY OF CURRENT AGREEMENT OF SALE
Question: When developing a real property appraisal, what is an appraiser’s responsibility
under USPAP if a lender refuses to provide a copy of the current agreement of sale
of the subject property?
Response: Standards Rule 1-5(a) requires an appraiser developing a real property appraisal, if such
information is available to the appraiser in the normal course of business, to:
analyze all agreements of sale, options, or listings of the subject property current as of
the effective date of the appraisal.
The normal course of business for an appraiser when the property is known to be the subject of a
pending transaction is to ask the client for the terms of the agreement. If this request is denied,
then the appraiser should make reasonable attempts to obtain this information from other sources
through legal means commonly available to and practiced by the appraiser’s peers. Standards
Rule 2-2(a)(viii), (b)(viii), or (c)(viii) also includes the requirement that:
If such information is unobtainable, a statement on the efforts undertaken by the
appraiser to obtain the information is required. If such information is irrelevant, a
statement acknowledging the existence of the information and citing its lack of relevance191. AVAILABILITY OF CURRENT AGREEMENT OF SALE
Question: When developing a real property appraisal, what is an appraiser’s responsibility
under USPAP if a lender refuses to provide a copy of the current agreement of sale
of the subject property?
Response: Standards Rule 1-5(a) requires an appraiser developing a real property appraisal, if such
information is available to the appraiser in the normal course of business, to:
analyze all agreements of sale, options, or listings of the subject property current as of
the effective date of the appraisal.
The normal course of business for an appraiser when the property is known to be the subject of a
pending transaction is to ask the client for the terms of the agreement. If this request is denied,
then the appraiser should make reasonable attempts to obtain this information from other sources
through legal means commonly available to and practiced by the appraiser’s peers. Standards
Rule 2-2(a)(viii), (b)(viii), or (c)(viii) also includes the requirement that:
If such information is unobtainable, a statement on the efforts undertaken by the
appraiser to obtain the information is required. If such information is irrelevant, a
statement acknowledging the existence of the information and citing its lack of relevance is required.
Refer to Standards Rules 2-2(a)(viii), (b)(viii), or (c)(viii) for related reporting requirements, and
to Advisory Opinion 1, Sales History for additional information."

So when does an assignment end? what say you?
 
You need to review your agreement with that specific AMC. Not that I don't agree with you especially in this case, but it is the engagement agreement that defines the assignment and most AMCs have a service agreement that addresses these issues which is executed when you sign on with the AMC.

It is NOT a USPAP issue but rather a contract issue determined between the parties. Different clients will have different terms in regard to when the assignment is considered complete.

Best of luck in resolving your situation.
 
Tell him you want additional pay for additional work and that the information was their responsibility to provide, not yours. And you don't give a crapola what they call it, you will be paid or you won't provide the work. period. Add this to your appraisals

Appraisals are based on the data available at the time the assignment is completed. Amendments or modifications to appraisals based on new information made available after the appraisal is completed will be made, as soon as reasonably possible for an additional fee.
 
I think you are mistaken Howard, the appraiser determines when the assignment is complete the same way we determine the scope of work, no?
 
"The most probable price which a property should bring in a competitive and open market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale, the buyer and seller each acting prudently and knowledgeably, and assuming the price is not affected by undue stimulus. Implicit in this definition are the consummation of a sale on a specific date and the passing of title from seller to buyer under conditions whereby:"

USPAP Frequently Asked Questions (USPAP FAQ) is a form of guidance issued by the ASB to respond to questions raised by appraisers, enforcement officials, users of appraisal services and the public to illustrate the applicability of USPAP in specific situations and to offer advice from the ASB for the resolution of appraisal issues and problems. The advice presented may not represent the only possible solution to the issues discussed and the advice provided may not be applied equally to seemingly similar situations. USPAP FAQ does not establish new standards or interpret existing standards. USPAP FAQ is not part of USPAP and is approved by the ASB without public exposure and comment.


USPAP has five sections: DEFINITIONS, PREAMBLE, Rules, Standards and Standards Rules, and Statements on Appraisal Standards. For convenience of reference, USPAP is published with this Foreword and a Table of Contents. The publication also includes the Advisory Opinions and Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) as additional reference materials. These reference materials are forms of “Other Communications” provided by the ASB for guidance only and are not part of USPAP.

USPAP 2012-2013 Page Ui

As of the effective date of the value opinion, X existed. Anything that happened after the effective date is not applicable to the assignment which was completed when you turned in your final report to your client,

BECAUSE:


An appraiser:
must not perform an assignment with bias;

must not advocate the cause or interest of any party

So, having you constantly update their files, by revising your report for any new events subsequent to the effective date of the appraisal is NOT a function of your independent opinion, or of appraising.

Just saying.
 
Already done Terrel, thats why it got kicked upstairs to the Appraiser.! Oh, one other thing I do when dealing with AMC staff is I go to our Licensing Board and look up the AMC and get the name of the AMC Desiggnated Officer and cc that person with all the email. We shall see what happens. But I still need your opinions as to WHEN IS THE ASSIGNMENT complete, ended, final, closed etc... and any definitive source you may know of, USPAP, FNMA, FHA, FDIC, Office of the Comptroller etc..
 
Thanks Marion, I agree.
The counter offers were in existance prior to the effective date of the appraisal but were just not made available to me untill after I completed, published, and delivered the report to my client, for the second time!
 
No Fredrick I am not mistaken. Have you read the service agreement YOU signed with the AMC? To address your point that the appraiser decides, where is it referenced? None of the regulatory agencies address the issue because it is not a regulatory issue, it is an engagement issue i.e. the contract between the client and the appraiser. Now you know why several of us harp on the issue of utilizing engagement agreements. When properly drafted, these issue do not arise.
 
Frederick,

So what you are saying is that the client did not provide all the information concerning the report when you accepted the assignment in violation of the Fannie Mae Selling Guide?

Humm, sounds like I would copy the MANDATORY disclosures from lenders to appraisers contained in the most recent selling guide and demand additional fees for them not complying with their own guidelines up front.

But I get Biotchy like that some days.

Actually, many more days recently then used to be,

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I would have asked for copies of counteroffers when I noticed the check box indicating their existence. Not sure what I would do if they failed to provide them.

Do the counteroffers make a difference? Create a problem or much extra work? If it was just a little comment I'd probably write it and get it out of my face. But, I suppose next they'll want you to remove the crapola from the report. :peace:
 
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