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Winsketch Help

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I switched computers and video cards and now the when I sketch it is very small, words overlap and the worst part are my room labels/text appear huge and dont fit in the sketch until I save it and look at the page in the report. I have the resolution set at 1280 x 720 but it does it at lower resolutions too. Anyone experince this? any fixes??
 
Kendall:

Is 1,280 x 720 the native resolution of the monitor?

What OS are you using?

What forms program are you using? Are you running WS in "integrated" mode or running it "stand alone" and pasting the sketch image into an addendum page?

I am not a WS expert but from having done WS file conversions in the past, I am somewhat familiar with some potential issues and I am glad to try and help. I am obviously also familiar with sketching issues, regardless of the actual program being used and with the various issues dealing with how the various forms programs treat image insertion into a page.
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1280 x 720 is native
xp home
and the program intergrates into ACI

Thanks
 
Kendall:

Ahhh, are you using an HDTV as your monitor? 1,280 x 720 is a typical resolution seen when hooking up to a modest HDTV @ a 16:9 aspect ratio. Sometimes, you'll get some interpolation conflicts that can fool the card. You mentioned that you changed computers and video card. Do you know what card you are using? If it is a laptop, do you know your chip set designation? You may need to revert back to a traditional monitor (4:3 or 16:10) if there are no driver or software updates available.

[Edit] You mentioned that everything seems to fix itself once the sketch image is placed inside the addendum in your ACI formsware. Is the main problem that the distorted font sizing(s) are a distraction while creating/editing the sketch?
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[Edit] You mentioned that everything seems to fix itself once the sketch image is placed inside the addendum in your ACI formsware. Is the main problem that the distorted font sizing(s) are a distraction while creating/editing the sketch?
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yes
and yes using a HDTV although it use to work fine.
the card ais a radeon x1300
 
Well, IMHO, the Radeon is a pretty decent card and should handle this properly. I assume you've gotten the latest drivers (?) - although we all know that sometimes the latest aren't always the best, LOL.

Was your other computer (the one that worked fine) a different brand of card - nVidia based or embedded Intel?
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Randall
I have no idea whatthe other card was, it was the onboard card.
Would Apex work better, Im looking for a change..
 
Kendall:

I had (and still have) the exact same problem with Winsketch, although I don't use it anymore. I now use Apex and really love it. I could never figure out why Winsketch did that.
 
Thanks for the kind words, Mary! I hope you are finding v4.1+ to be better than that earlier v4.0 release. We should have another update out this week which will ad some things people have been asking for, plus some fixes. You'll start to see more regular product updates now that all the core versions are out... As always, the updates are free for registered users... :-)

Kendall:

Of course, I am biased, and I try to stay away from doing "sales" type things on the forums. What I CAN say is that I believe Apex will not have the problem you are seeing on your Radeon/HDTV setup. Most of the sketchers work the same - tell it the Area name, draw & close, move on to the next Area. The keystrokes may be slightly different for selecting certain functions, but many of them are identical. This is natural and we don't get upset when others use "our" keystrokes. It makes sense to me to have some sort of "standard" even if it is loose.

Probably the biggest difference WS users see when moving to Apex is that by default, the dimension for each line is not "posted" automatically. So, you need to hit [Enter] to end the line and then [Enter] again to "post" the dimension. This takes, what, an extra 1/2 second? Still, there is (always has been) an option to post the dimension automatically if that is your preference. Over time, you may find WHY the dimension is not posted automatically by default. IF you find that to be of benefit through use, great, but if not, simply go to the Tools/Configuration tab and select the AutoPost dimensions check box.

Other than that, Apex uses [F4] to display the "what am I about to draw" dialog (we call it "Define Area.") I believe most WS users do not use an F-key or the menu item, but rather click on the little L-shaped button to "Define the Area"... In Apex, you can use the Draw/Define Area menu, the [F4] key or click on the BIG icon that says "Define Area"... Again, the same but different, LOL

Both programs are typically driven by distance + direction, [Enter] by "power users" but are essentially identical for mouse users. Define the Area, click the start point, click at the end, do the dimension (manual placement or automatic), move to the next point, etc. Both programs monitor your distance to close ("to POB in Apex), etc.

Rise & Run for Bay windows is pretty much the same except that you don't need to enter in a [A] to designate you are about to draw an angle. You just do (say), 3 up arrow, 3 right arrow, [Enter]...

Curves are done most simply with the scroll wheel on a mouse. If the curve is complicated, people hit [F7] (or select the big Curve icon) and a dialog pops up with the various elements of a curve. Enter what you have and the "Curve Solver" will calculate the exact degree of curvature that you can use or manually round yourself if you want. That is, if you enter the chord (distance between the beginning and end of the curve) and either the arc height (bulge) or the arc length you measured, it may come back with something like 88.7 degrees, so you may want to just say "Heck, that is a 90 degree curve" and select that pre-set button or use the exact degree, your choice. We all know the imprecise measurements taken at times...

Text and Symbols are mostly done by Drag and Drop these days, but you can also do it the "legacy" way... select them from a list w/preview, and use the mouse or keyboard to move them around, pressing [Enter] or left-click to "post them"... All 200 (?) Symbols are categorized by type and we have a "Favorites" folder which comes up by default so you don't have to scroll through a ton of Symbols. All Symbols are drawn to scale so they come out the correct size according to your current scale of drawing. Every Symbol can be rescaled if needed, either "on-the-fly" of changed to a permanent default size if desired. (The default saving was removed from v4.0 and is yet to re-appear, but it on the list for the next update - sort of "Back by popular demand" We removed it because we didn't think people used that feature, but we were wrong, so it is returning.)

Yes, there will be SOME learning curve, but for the essentials, it is more mental or in breaking old habits, but as other "converts" may say, not really hard. So, basically, for your basic needs, Apex will largely operate pretty much the same as WS. Where is goes beyond is in dealing with those really weird ones, in doing metes and bounds from legals, in its ability to trace a scanned image (floor plan or aerial shot) and a host of other extras. You should be able to read most (if not all) of your legacy WS files, as well. Some years back, we wrote a converter so people using WS could conveniently use Apex with old files. When we read the WS file, a dialog will pop up warning you to check your old calculations - we found several apparent calculation discrepancies - some in the sample files some forms programs were using! Pretty scary in today's litigious world.

Anyway, the best thing to do is simply download the trial version and install it. You can quickly tell if you are having any display issues. Beyond that, you can view the video tutorials and determine if upgrading to Apex is right for you. Of course, I think you should, but again I am biased... :-)

Let me know if I can help. You may also get advice from your peers here or on other forums which may be more valuable to you. We think that having a large user base is a good thing because so many people are available for "How do I handle this?" type stuff... :-)

Finally, where are you in the Denver area? I travel there several times a year (I am a member of a couple of Colorado appraisal groups) for training and CE classes. I just returned from a swing through Denver, Copper Mountain, Ft. Collins, Boulder doing a Mobile Technology gig. When we do these, we always offer some hands-on training, either formally or just impromptu. We love training because we like to meet with users and get their feedback on how they want us to improve things for their own use.

Hope this helps! If you have detailed questions, feel free to write me directly at the address spelled out below. feel free to send me a sample WS file and I'll convert it for you and send it back as a PDF (we have a built-in PDF thing) so you can look at the output.

-Randall Garrett- rgarrett [at] apexwin [dot] com
..Apex Software..
 
I agree with Randall here, that it is likely a driver issue with the new video device. When I recently upgraded from a really old Sony trinitron CRT to a Samsung 22" widescreen LCD monitor, it took me a few days to find a good driver (wasn't the newest, was about 1 or 2 "versions" below Brand New Beta) that worked best with my computer, OS, video chipset and new monitor.

Also, and may not affect your issue, I had to unhook it from the DVI (digital) output of my older card, and plug it into the analog (XVGA) connector instead. This was the easier fix since *most* new video cards are the newer protocol (PCI-E or something?) and is not the older AGP like my motherboard has. To change cards would be to change motherboards, which means a new CPU and RAM too (also too "old" to work in newer computers/mobos). So I chose the cheaper and easier route and just hooked it to analog until I can build a new box with a decent digital video card. This was more about refresh rates than actual skewed display issues, but is something to consider with new HDTV/widescreen monitors.

See if Radeon offers a program to automate the setup of your card and monitor. Or if the monitor maker does. A good place to cherry pick video drivers (bleeding edge Beta to old initial releases) for most every video card on the planet can be found at www.guru3d.com (look for ATI/Radeon/Catalyst driver sets and utilities).
 
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