Lithium Price Plunge - No One Buying EVs

[jay trotta]

Always curious to see what they are going to do with all those batteries when they're dead. How will they help improve the environment?

 

[Dublin ohio]

Always curious to see what they are going to do with all those batteries when they're dead. How will they help improve the environment?

It will be a few years more before that can be answered since EV batteries have and expeted life of at least 10 years. But current recycling methods do not sound very environment friendly, smelting, chemical extraction.

 

[Mark K]

It will be a few years more before that can be answered since EV batteries have and expeted life of at least 10 years. But current recycling methods do not sound very environment friendly, smelting, chemical extraction.

Sounds familiar. The gov't also encouraged and even mandated asbestos use in public/gov't buildings, schools, ships, subs, etc. Now they mandate its removal at the cost of many Billions of $ to building owners, school systems, etc.

Doubtful that anyone in the gov't has thought even for a second about the future of EV batteries, just the 'today' and its warm and fuzzy feeling it gives to some of those morons.

 

[TerryRohrer]

Always curious to see what they are going to do with all those batteries when they're dead. How will they help improve the environment?

Probably put them with the spent uranium in Yucca Mountain...someday.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Probably put them with the spent uranium in Yucca Mountain...someday.

If a pile of batteries has but one cell ignite....whoa. Huge fire and nothing can put it out

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

https://www.motor1.com/news/749868/ford-ceo-ev-not-good-towing/

Ford Says Large Electric Trucks And SUVs Have 'Unresolvable' Problems

The economics just don't work right now, he said. The Dearborn automaker will instead rely on multi-energy platforms for the larger trucks and SUVs.

ground.news

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Went to Ft. Smith for a geological society meeting tonight and the speaker was describing the studies of heavy brines that contain lithium. The amount of lithium passing through the bromine plant tailwaters appears to have exceeded the annual amount of lithium used in the US. Now having said that, these plants cannot extract 100% of the lithium, in fact, only a small percentage. But it means a few such plants can supply the US with a surplus of lithium for years and decades to come. But again, is there going to be a battery material that is better than Lithium and has a higher energy density? The real question is what happens to lithium if a better battery material is found? And the answer is probably, but it will take time to develop it.

 

[TC]

A full EV doesn't make sense, yet. My wife just bought a KIA Hybrid, so far 46 mpg average.

 

[Fernando]

I filled my gas guzzler today at $4.459/gallon unleaded. Didn't realize prices have gone up almost 10% since last month. Maybe refinery here got into a big fire last week has effect.
Glad to have EV cars when gas prices go up.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

In 2022, wind and solar generated 14% of US electricity (11%wind, 3% solar), nudging higher in 2023. But the claim now is that about one-third of generation capacity is wind or solar... well duh. That means over half the capacity is unavailable at any given time. Since solar is unavailable at night, that is accounted for, but wind is fickler. The combination of low wind and night means hydroelectric, gas, nukes, and coal are the rest of it. In other words, the base loads that have to be maintained 24/7. It is inefficient at best.