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What a big crock of c#P!

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I was hoping the unethical had begun to be culled from their ranks but I am afraid it will take much more time for that if it is even possible at all.

Thats the problem with the current situation as it is. There is no enforcement. Well, there is enforcement. But, I don't consider less than 1% of all loans and appraisals coming under real, objective and unbiased scrutiny enforcement.

So, what we're left with is culling through economics. Unfortunately, the unethical in this business are well positioned to compete in the current market while the ethical are ill prepared to compete. Lets face the facts. If you can't make loans because of inconveniences like poor credit scores, insufficient income, declining values, nasty debt to income ratios then you can't survive in this market. An ethical MB or LO is not willing to do what is necessary in order to overcome these obstacles. The MB or LO cannot do anything about poor credit scores or an applicants current debt. However, they could possibly forge credentials for an applicants level of income thereby manipulating two the the 4 factors I listed and then could manipulate the appraiser or find an appraiser that is more than willing to accommodate the MB or LO thereby manipulating 3 of the 4 factors.

This is capitalism at it's purest. Allow the market to take care of its self *laugh*. So, what we're left with is a lending industry and an appraisal industry that day after day more and more ethical members leave because they can't compete.

Capitalism is a grand and wondrous ideal as long as the playing field is leveled by government regulation AND ENFORCEMENT. While we have regulation it is of little use without ENFORCEMENT. And no body wants to enforce the regulations because the reality of the matter is we are in a worse off economy that we are being lead to believe. And if the lending industry was unable to loan money it would collapse. Along with it the rest of the economy too.
 
I think they know, they ALL know. They just don't care.

Fine them, progressively for each offense, and they will.

Dave...
 
The state licensing units are for the generation of income through licenses to the state general fund. One part-time secretary, one administrator, and one part-time inspector. The rest is gravy for the state.
 
I would bet 80% have no idea what the HVCC is. It will be very interesting and amusing to see the scramble 01/01/2009.
 
I don't understand the fascination with Brokers Outpost, Universe or any other of those sites. Are you trying to drum up business or have an evangelical streak and want to convert the heathens to USPAPism?

Starting an "oh my God can you believe these brokers" thread is akin to a "can you believe the sun rose this morning" thread.
 
I don't understand the fascination with Brokers Outpost, Universe or any other of those sites. Are you trying to drum up business or have an evangelical streak and want to convert the heathens to USPAPism?

Starting an "oh my God can you believe these brokers" thread is akin to a "can you believe the sun rose this morning" thread.
So true Scott. :rof:
 
BTW, Any effort to license these guys nationally must include a mandatory USPAP course and include them in any enforcement of it. Many have no clue about it ad see many of their unethical and illegal actions as the normal course of business.

Agreed. Basically, what it boils down to is that we each operate in very different realities.
 
Forward the thread to Cuomo, et al. Let them bury themselves in the hole they insist on digging for themselves.
 
......the sun rose this morning.....

It did?

Forward the thread to Cuomo, et al. Let them bury themselves in the hole they insist on digging for themselves.

That is an excellent idea. Someone who knows their way around that site should make PDFs of some of the threads and distribute them to important people who make decisions. It might be eye opening to legislative types.
 
That's a weak forum anyways

Frederick, quite right, but it would take phone calls to all of them, and appraisers have fought that fight, and lost. They don't care. The mentallity of these guys is quite different, they are all power salesman. Good idea to mandate USPAP testing & education for these guys. They clearly do not understand USPAP rules regarding scope of work, and order assignment. CWD, not sure if I agree with you. Further governmental enforcement is not always the best move, lets try enforcing existing laws, before passing new ones. No amount of government intervention can stop dishonesty, it begins with each one of us individually. There are alternatives to these guys anyways, and that's how the system will eventually find balance, ever heard of community home sales sites? Where people pay to list, and buy without paying commissions, employing only an appraiser? I think that's a real winning concept. Scott, quite right, they are probably on like that all day. It's obvious from reading only one thread there, that these guys are more personal opinions and wa wa, than facts & deep thinking. If you want to battle them, just post them links to associated issues on this site, it's all be said before. Make them spend some time chewing it over. Now that their mouths are not stuffed full of steak and hundred dollar bills......:new_2gunsfiring_v1:
 
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