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Should I file complaint with Appraisal Board?

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It is neither. This is a MARI form (not in a Fannie or freddie format) which more closely resembles a desk review except that a value opinion is rendered. It is stated that no inspection was performed.
 
This form does not indicate what form of review it is?

Heck, you have to identify the problem first of all.......did they want a desk review or a field review? Surely it has the required appraiser's certification and limiting conditions.


I have never seen one of these MARI reviews.
 
Just goes to prove that Charlotte needs a lot more appraisers. Obviously there is a huge shortage in the area or the MARI folks would have used a local.m2:m2:m2:m2:

Why do they not use locals? Sure wish I had an answer to that million dollar question.
 
If an review appraiser does not have geographical competency it s simply impossible to even fill out a "Win Total DFR" desk review form properly. You could not answer the questions without some knowledge of the area......not to mention the house.


The review form 2006 on Win Total is just as bad. Ditto for the review form 2004 and the LSI DR 2008.

How can you review information about a neighborhood that you have no knowledge? Market conditions? Stigma? Schools? Occupancy (rental/owner)? Land use....and on and on.

There may well be some forms for reviews that that a reviewer could ethical prepare....but I have not seen one. I think Danny Wiley does long distance reviews...perhaps as a carefully crafted narrative.


If any of you have never prepared a desk or field review.....pull one up and give it a try.
 
I still don't know what a MARI review form is??

This review was prepared on a Landsafe form, .......LARA ( I had never seen one before this one.....thanks)

The review was prepared 6 days after the URAR was signed.

The "Subject" section was not filled out...I suspect because the long distance reviewer could not answer those questions.

The reviewer did offer an opinion of value.

Read the very, very limited scope of work. No inspection required (subject or comps).
The review is based on the EA that the original appraisal is credible (all data).

The LARA is restricted to use by by the lender and is designated as "a supplement intended for use in conjunction with the APPRAISAL".

The REVIEWER is staff appraiser for Landsafe and must have over 5 years experienced as she has a trainee.


It is a desk review. It is for quality control for appraisals NOT ordered by Landsafe. The "lender" has sent the original appraisal to Landsafe (to fund the loan). Landsafe had it reviewed (for whatever reason). The apparent purpose of the review is to assist in calculating RISK factors.

I see that the reviewer considered THREE new comparables that were not in the report. All very recent sales (since 01/01/2010) and all less than .60 miles from the subject.
Some AMCs and lenders have MLS access and I know L/S has access in Charlotte.

Considering the intended use and intended user......this review is pretty good.


I don't see where this review violates USPAP or any NCAB rules.
 
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Caution: The appraiser may well have geographic competency thru frequent Charlotte appraisals or some other factor unknown to you. I say this because I know of a case where the reviewer lived 100 miles away....but did in fact have market competency.
I'm glad you wrote it so that I didn't have to do so. For all you know the appraiser used to live in that neighborhood, and visits it at least three times a year. The appraiser may well know the area better than most appraisers in Mecklenburg county. That would certainly be true for me for most of the north Charlotte/Huntersville area.

If there is actually something wrong with the report, or the review, by all means send in a complaint.

If the only problem is the appraiser lives in Raleigh, and did not inspect the property, you would look foolish sending it in. If I was an inspector with the state reading such a complaint, I would try to get the board to require the appraiser sending it in to retake the 15 hour USPAP due to the obvious ignorance it would demonstrate. :new_all_coholic:
 
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The NCAB determined that the below appraiser did not have "Geographic Competence".




So I have to ask. If this were you, and this review appraiser is not or could be reasonably thought of as not being geographically competent, and puts YOUR name, reputation, and feeding your family on the line, what would you do?



By the way, is it not the job of the NCAB to determine if the appraiser has geo-competence in the end. Turn them in and let them decide.

Volume is the name of the game for most review appraisers...not worth the papaer their on...just saying.







Jeffrey P. Johnson A6489 (Raleigh)
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Following a hearing, the Board revoked Mr. Johnson’s residential certification effective April 1, 2010. There were four cases against Mr. Johnson. In the first case, Mr. Johnson appraised a property located in Winston-Salem, North Carolina effective December 22, 2008, finding a value of $143,000. The subject property is a one story brick and vinyl sided home with 1085 square feet and a full finished basement. Mr. Johnson reported the distance from the subject of Comparable 1 as 0.47 miles when it was actually 4.22 miles from the subject. He reported the distance from the subject of Comparable 3 as 0.46 miles when it was actually 1.74 miles from the subject. There were sales available in the subject subdivision that ranged from $36,875 to $89,250. Mr. Johnson overvalued the subject property. The subject property is approximately 82 miles from his primary business location. He was not a member of the Multiple Listing Service in this area at the time of the appraisal and was not geographically competent to perform this appraisal. In the second case, Mr. Johnson appraised a property located in High Point, North Carolina effective February 13, 2009, finding a value of $122,000. The subject property is a one story vinyl sided home with 1100 square feet on a slab foundation. Mr. Johnson reported the distance from the subject of Comparable 1 as 0.50 miles, Comparable 2 as 0.75 miles, and Comparable 3 as 0.52 miles. The actual distances were 2.67 miles for Comparable 1, 3.82 miles for Comparable 2, and 3.76 miles for Comparable 3. All of the photographs of the comparables were incorrect. There were more similar sales available in the subject’s immediate area that ranged from $98,500 to $116,000. Mr. Johnson overvalued the subject property. The subject property is approximately 68 miles from his primary business location. He was not a member of the Multiple Listing Service in this area at the time of the appraisal and was not geographically competent to perform this appraisal. In the third case, Mr. Johnson appraised a property located in Raleigh, North Carolina effective May 5, 2009, finding a value of $268,000. The subject property is a vinyl sided townhome with 2023 square feet, 7 rooms, 3 bedrooms, and 2.5 baths. It is located in a country club neighborhood. Mr. Johnson reported the distance of the comparables from the subject as between 0.25 and 0.33 miles when they were actually approximately 1.25 miles from the subject. The photo of Comparable 1 is incorrect. There were other sales in the subject’s immediate area that ranged from $243,000 to $317,500. One sale of the same floor plan as the subject sold for $315,000 on September 17, 2008. There was no reason why neighborhood sales could not be used. Had they been used, the appraised value would have been higher. In the fourth case, Mr. Johnson appraised a property located in Durham, North Carolina effective January 7, 2009, finding a value of $260,000. The subject property is a one story vinyl sided home with 2737 square feet. The subject appears to be a manufactured or modular home, although the county tax records report the subject as being conventional [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]construction. This was not addressed in the report. The subject has 10.95 acres. Comparable 3 has 0.40 acres and is located in a residential subdivision comprised of similarly sized lots. This subdivision has several amenities such as a pool and tennis courts that were not mentioned in the appraisal report. In all of the above cases, Mr. Johnson was notified in writing, by email and by telephone calls that he needed to respond to the complaints and to send in the appraisals and work files. He was personally contacted by and met with an investigator for the Board and was told he needed to send in responses. Despite several assurances that he would do so, he never sent any documents to the Board. Although Mr. Johnson may have had personal issues during the period of time these appraisals were done and the complaints were filed, he continued to appraise, and there was no reason why he could not have responded to the complaints. Mr. Johnson had previously been disciplined by the Appraisal Board. [/FONT]
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I live in south Florida. Does that mean I could not be geographically competent to appraise a property in Fredericksburg VA from my desk in FL?


How about if one of the properties were any of the ones I lived in during my 16 years as a residential appraiser in that area? I suppose if I needed to consult with a local appraiser, I could call my Dad who still lives/works in that area and has been appraising there forever and a day.
 
I've been living in the area which I appraise in for 30 years. With current market conditions, poor data, un-certain times, poor data, amount of foreclosures, every appraisal I do is hard and difficult. Even appraising in cookie cutter subdivisions can be a challenge. So the out-of-area appraiser is a concern...



So would a out-of-area appraiser be more credible or more accurate? The chances are much, much lower. That's the million dollar question. If I do an appraisal, and the scope of work is for a desk top and using only relative/ranking analysis and qualitative techniques, and then another appraiser does a summary report and the scope of work is for an interior inspection, measuring the subject, matched paired analysis, and a sales comparison grid analysis. Which one has a higher chance of producing a more accurate opinion of market value? Now if you throw in a local appraiser and a out-of-area appraiser...


Ken,

I love your "one in a million" example. So do you really think that's the norm? I don't. Unfortunately it is the norm to use out of state or out-of-area reviews appraisers

We all know what's going on. Appraisers are doing reviews for $35.00 a pop and probably doing 10-20 a day. Heck, I probably wouldn't trust a AMC review appraisers opinion in they lived beside me. Just like appraising, anyone can throw a number on a sheet of paper and call it an appraisal. Not that hard.


I know several review appraisers that works for the big banks. They even admit that what they do is BS. They best describe it as a legal plantation with a bonus system and 401K, i.e., volume baby.


On the other hand, I know some very qualified review appraisers. But the ratio is 10:1. Not the norm.
 
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My point, which you must surely acknowledge, is that the OP wanted to know if a review should be sent to the state when the OP was completely clueless regarding the competencies of the reviewer.

How about the OP gets turned into the state for not knowing USPAP and the requirements, or lack thereof, regarding property inspection. The OP's question attests to the only verifiable level of anyone's competency in the whole thread.

But don't let me stop the witch hunt.
 
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