All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

[Randolph Kinney]

World’s first solar airport takes off in southern India

The airport uses 46,000 solar panels spread across 45 acres to power all its electricity needs – and sells excess power to the government-run grid.

Since August, the airport has used 46,000 solar panels laid across 45 acres to power all its electricity needs, and sell excess power to the government-run grid. At night, when the sun doesn’t shine, it pulls some of that power back from the grid, making the airport effectively “carbon neutral.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Maki...rst-solar-airport-takes-off-in-southern-India

The future is commercial solar power generation by government and corporations that make a profit selling it to you. Solar power under this scheme, without battery storage, is limited to 50% of total power production. Peak demand and demand when the sun doesn't shine means carbon rules the world.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Solar panels ordered removed by homeowner association

SAN JOSE -- Ilam Mougy wanted to green up his condominium with solar power.

The 49-year-old software engineer won approval to install panels on his home from PG&E and the city of San Jose. He expected little trouble from the Tuscany Hills homeowners association since another neighbor had an array on his roof. He was wrong.

The association claimed ownership of the roof and ordered all the panels removed. Mougy was fined $300 and the cost of fixing the red clay tiles.

He was baffled: "I wasn't trying to upset anyone."

Despite state laws limiting the control that homeowners associations have over solar installations, green advocates say the groups are a steady challenge to extending the systems to more residential rooftops.

The disputes pit two powerful and growing forces against each other.

California has 43,300 community associations, second only to Florida, according to the trade group Community Associations Institute. About 7.2 million Californians -- roughly 1 in every 5 -- live in communities governed by a homeowners association, or HOA. Some types of property, such as condominiums, give homeowners associations greater control.

At stake is the expansion of the solar market into more residential communities. Solar installers say the time and costs of completing a lengthy HOA application can delay construction by months, eat up a project manager's time, and ultimately frustrate homeowners and kill demand.

"It's death by 1,000 cuts," said Randy Zechman, CEO of San Jose-based Clean Solar. Zechman said he's even considered a surcharge on construction involving HOAs because of the increased management costs.

When it comes to solar installation, he said, "homeowners actually have extensive rights."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business...g-cool-reception-from-homeowners-associations

 

[Meandering]

I still want to know if Mammoth farts caused the ice age.

 

[timd354]

Solar panels ordered removed by homeowner association

SAN JOSE -- Ilam Mougy wanted to green up his condominium with solar power.

The 49-year-old software engineer won approval to install panels on his home from PG&E and the city of San Jose. He expected little trouble from the Tuscany Hills homeowners association since another neighbor had an array on his roof. He was wrong.

The association claimed ownership of the roof and ordered all the panels removed. Mougy was fined $300 and the cost of fixing the red clay tiles.

He was baffled: "I wasn't trying to upset anyone."

Despite state laws limiting the control that homeowners associations have over solar installations, green advocates say the groups are a steady challenge to extending the systems to more residential rooftops.

The disputes pit two powerful and growing forces against each other.

California has 43,300 community associations, second only to Florida, according to the trade group Community Associations Institute. About 7.2 million Californians -- roughly 1 in every 5 -- live in communities governed by a homeowners association, or HOA. Some types of property, such as condominiums, give homeowners associations greater control.

At stake is the expansion of the solar market into more residential communities. Solar installers say the time and costs of completing a lengthy HOA application can delay construction by months, eat up a project manager's time, and ultimately frustrate homeowners and kill demand.

"It's death by 1,000 cuts," said Randy Zechman, CEO of San Jose-based Clean Solar. Zechman said he's even considered a surcharge on construction involving HOAs because of the increased management costs.

When it comes to solar installation, he said, "homeowners actually have extensive rights."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business...g-cool-reception-from-homeowners-associations

What kind of morons would think that it is or should be acceptable for indivdual unit owners in a condo complex to have a solar array installed on a common owned rooftop without first obtaining permission of the HOA?

 

[Randolph Kinney]

What kind of morons would think that it is or should be acceptable for indivdual unit owners in a condo complex to have a solar array installed on a common owned rooftop without first obtaining permission of the HOA?

People don't know what the laws are or what their HOA has as the final say so. What kind of solar panel dealer / installer would not get the permits and permissions?

 

[Carnivore]

Here is an old Newspaper article clip

 

[Carnivore]

I still want to know if Mammoth farts caused the ice age.

They want us to eat less beef so there will be less cattle tooting.

Hmm back in Wild Bill Days there were millions of buffaloes

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Here is an old Newspaper article clipView attachment 27327

Gee, and people believe the UN?

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

Is there anyone you believe Randy, professional skeptic (and prolific cutter and paster)?

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Is there anyone you believe Randy, professional skeptic (and prolific cutter and paster)?

Least of all you, Pete. Didn't you invest in Zaio? That says it all for your credibility.