That Didn't Take Long-new Taf "panel"

[Don Clark]

For Immediate Release
Contact: Paula Douglas Seidel, 202.624.3048, paula@appraisalfoundation.org

Washington, DC – January 31, 2017--The Appraiser Qualifications Board (AQB) of The Appraisal Foundation (Foundation) has engaged a panel to assist in the development of Practical Applications of Real Estate Appraisal. This panel will provide the AQB with recommended outlines for programs offering alternative options for appraiser candidates to obtain real property appraisal experience.

"The AQB's goal is to design an experience-based curriculum that will emulate real estate appraisal practice. The curriculum will include experience modules for the Licensed Residential, Certified Residential, and Certified General credential levels,” Joseph Traynor, Chair of the AQB said. “Benefits of this type of practice-based experience will include consistent educational materials provided by qualified mentors. Experience module outlines are currently being developed for each of the credential levels stated above,” Traynor added.

The panel first met in Washington, DC on December 14, 2016. The composition of the panel is diverse, and includes members with backgrounds in residential and non-residential appraising, real property education, appraiser regulation, membership organizations, and appraisal management companies. Panel members include:

• Scott Biethan
  Seattle, WA
• William Fall
  Toledo, OH
• Rebecca L. Jones
  Binghamton, NY
• Randall Kopfer
  Austin, TX
• Jordan Petkovski
  Dallas, TX

 

[Michigander]

For Immediate Release
Contact: Paula Douglas Seidel, 202.624.3048, paula@appraisalfoundation.org

Washington, DC – January 31, 2017--The Appraiser Qualifications Board (AQB) of The Appraisal Foundation (Foundation) has engaged a panel to assist in the development of Practical Applications of Real Estate Appraisal. This panel will provide the AQB with recommended outlines for programs offering alternative options for appraiser candidates to obtain real property appraisal experience.

"The AQB's goal is to design an experience-based curriculum that will emulate real estate appraisal practice. The curriculum will include experience modules for the Licensed Residential, Certified Residential, and Certified General credential levels,” Joseph Traynor, Chair of the AQB said. “Benefits of this type of practice-based experience will include consistent educational materials provided by qualified mentors. Experience module outlines are currently being developed for each of the credential levels stated above,” Traynor added.

The panel first met in Washington, DC on December 14, 2016. The composition of the panel is diverse, and includes members with backgrounds in residential and non-residential appraising, real property education, appraiser regulation, membership organizations, and appraisal management companies. Panel members include:

• Scott Biethan
  Seattle, WA
• William Fall
  Toledo, OH
• Rebecca L. Jones
  Binghamton, NY
• Randall Kopfer
  Austin, TX
• Jordan Petkovski
  Dallas, TX

Missing a few:

• Donald T. Rodgers
  Raleigh, NC
• Debra Rudd
  Phoenix, AZ
• Leslie P. Sellers
  Clinton, TN

Stephen Sousa
Boston, MA

 

[Michigan CG]

A few of those names look familiar, not in a good way familiar.

 

[Meandering]

Is anyone concerned that

government is going to train members of a profession,

who are not then government employees?

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[Meandering]

A few of those names look familiar, not in a good way familiar.

And that's probably the reason why there is an ASC meeting on the 10th

 

[Meandering]

How do you all feel about part of your fees for renewing your certs is going to pay for training your competition?

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[Don Clark]

How do you all feel about part of your fees for renewing your certs is going to pay for training your competition?

.

Not really very good. Makes me wonder if TAF believes that the professional organizations are not capable of training and educating appraisers????? I still say, the role of TAF and USPAP should be to tell us what we need to do when we do an appraisal, not how to do an appraisal.

 

[Eli]

It reminds me of the fable of the boy who cried wolf. (Shortage)

It wasn't me.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

includes members with backgrounds in residential and non-residential appraising, real property education, appraiser regulation, membership organizations, and appraisal management companies.

So gee, AMC will sit at the table for "training" appraisers? Is that kind of like training your dog to sit up and speak? Roll over on command, etc.? And so you have a couple of CGs maybe? So some Big Box appraiser will dictate form to ranch appraisers? Foresters? Mineral appraisers? "Resource appraisers must inspect the property and that may require them to carry a 10,000' long shovel for a head and shoulders inspection..." "Water rights appraisers may use either snorkel gear or SCUBA."

wonder if TAF believes that the professional organizations are not capable of training

Apparently. The idea that appraising is some precision exercise in zero, ones with no flexibility in application, approach, or data analysis is really making the AI position sound not so stupid after all.

 

[Don Clark]

So gee, AMC will sit at the table for "training" appraisers? Is that kind of like training your dog to sit up and speak? Roll over on command, etc.? And so you have a couple of CGs maybe? So some Big Box appraiser will dictate form to ranch appraisers? Foresters? Mineral appraisers? "Resource appraisers must inspect the property and that may require them to carry a 10,000' long shovel for a head and shoulders inspection..." "Water rights appraisers may use either snorkel gear or SCUBA."
Apparently. The idea that appraising is some precision exercise in zero, ones with no flexibility in application, approach, or data analysis is really making the AI position sound not so stupid after all.

I would hope that the AARO and others would take notice and give their input.