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TBH, I always thought H. Harrison's forte was nailing down the specifics of the GSE programs for the noobs, whereas G.Harrison came across (to me) as being more savvy on the overall basis. .
 
Trainees need to work in house and supervised with mentor. There is no mentoring when using trainees work remotely and are used for inspecting houses.
 
I am not hiring trainees until I can pay staff appraisers at least $80k + benefits after they are certified 3-5 years and have a office for them to work in. The expectation would be that they can handle 260 appraisals per year.

Training future staff, giving them advancement opportunities, and building a business that has value is worth doing. Training appraisers that leave after they get certified or working as a "supervisor" for a AMC is a waste of time.
 
What...have I entered a Time Warp?
I heard all these arguments 30+ years ago. The essence is- why train your future competition?

No one - except those who have successfully built and run a fee shop- can come up with a good answer
 
............................Tip #2
Back way the fark up and get away from the forms-driven (SR2) appraisal development (SR1) mentality. If you're trying to prepare a new generation of appraisers for the more sophisticated environment they're going to be serving over the next 30-40 years of their careers you need a clean break from the form monkey mentality. You need to reframe everything into the underlying fundamentals that will enable them to perform to similar effect in any applicable appraisal protocol regardless of its cosmetics.....................

George, you are absolutely correct. If someone wanted to REALLY train new appraisers how to truly do the job correctly they would teach them the fundamentals of the profession WITHOUT the form(s). The goal of AXIS and Joan Trice is NOT to train competent appraisers or ones that will know anything outside of the GSE box, the goal is to train new "appraisers" how to fill out the form as quickly as possible without any depth of knowledge about what they are doing.

The BEST way to learn the job and UNDERSTAND the job is to be able to write it, without the crutches of the FORMS. I doubt this is the goal of AXIS or Joan Trice and the rest of the crew. They are looking for people to train the next generation that will keep those fees in the low $300 area.

If I were to train a new (residential) appraiser I would make them be able to write a narrative appraisal that mimicked the 1004 form, the 2055 form, the GP forms, the Income Forms and any other residential form. They won't do that and I doubt any person developing their "training" has the ability to do it yet alone teach it. I was not able to find a single reference on the AXIS web page about their Chief Appraiser. For all we know the chief appraiser is a form-filling idiot.

If I were to start with the easiest section of the 1004 I could go to special assessments and guarantee that some appraisers don't know what those are and how to research them. They would not be able to explain what a special assessment is and how long it might last and what impact on value that special assessment might have. But let us not worry about that. Let us jump to the neighborhood section.

A person who is taught to write a narrative report addressing every aspect of the 1004 would need to be able to support the ONE-UNIT HOUSING TRENDS and checking the box is not support. In many areas (my area included) the 1004MC is worthless and meaningless so that is not a source and besides, that is a FORM, and the goal, should I train someone, would be to have that trainee have the ability to write a fully supportive narrative without the form as a crutch to hold them up.

But let us skip the rest of the neighborhood section and move on.

That leads us to the SITE part of the appraisal and our narrative on the site. Zoning, there are actually appraisers who say that researching zoning is beyond the Scope of Work (funny how they fully use that SCOPE OF WORK argument but don't understand that zoning is a basic appraisal 101 part of the assignment). But there is this little box in this section that asks about Highest and Best Use. Oops, that is just a formality and just check the YES box as according to some (just saw this yesterday) the Highest and Best Use is ALWAYS the current use. Some idiots teach (aka, train, mentor) new "appraisers" this. The OP of this thread has identified that the Highest and Best Use is not just a box to check. If anyone remembers (Joan Trice and the two leaders of AXIS won't) the 2014 USPAP update, they would remember that the Highest and Best Use really needs to be summarized, in narrative and that point was stressed in the update. But anyway, let us move on or not. Then there is the reconciliation of value section of the report or at least the reconciliation of the different approaches, or why the heck did the appraiser put THAT number as the opinion of value? This training program won't teach them that because the AMC model accepts that Mr. Appraiser gets to say that the number is THIS and not explain WHY it is this.

My point is, the training program will not create knowledgeable appraisers yet alone any COMPETENT appraisers, it will not train an appraiser to do any report other than one for lending assignments for AMC work of which many are pathetic. But hopefully those appraisers will work for $300 and get that report turned within 48 hours.
 
The leadership of this program consists of Joan Trice's CRN and AXIS Appraisal Management. Joan has no appraisal license and neither of the AXIS leadership people do either. AXIS is so proud of its Chief Appraiser that they don't list him or her on their web page. Funny how Kim Perotti lets folks know that she was a manager in an appraisal firm yet my research of the ASC website finds she was never an appraiser. The other main person involved in AXIS is a former mortgage lender but at least he is concerned about incompetent appraisers......from the website... "...Michael was fearful of appraisal management companies that would send un-vetted appraisers 25 miles from their offices to do appraisals in areas they were unfamiliar with, and Kim’s firm was equally reticent to work with unknowledgeable AMCs that would pay a small fraction of the fee they collected for the appraisal...."

His company sends blast e-mails.

This company wants to train the future appraisers yet accepts appraisals that don't meet minimal USPAP requirements.

Joan Trice should once again be ashamed of herself for endorsing this or admit she is incompetent to be involved in this, which is it?

The AXIS people need to get a serious clue.

Let us all know in six months how successful this joke is. Joan Trice and the AXIS people will never respond to this, they can't.
 
The lobbyists sold the ASC on the threat of a fake appraiser shortage to cut education and trainee requirements but the lobbyists can't sell appraisers on the same spin.

Even with a decline of new people entering , why would we care and rush to train/supervise after the way appraisers are treated by the AMC 's and their affiliated lenders? (the good lender clients have loyal appraisers and no shortage of them.)

As far as attracting new people to the field, THEY READ THE INTERNET.. All a potential applicant needs to do is call one working appraiser,or go online to find out the truth. Some will still sign up, but there will be a high drop out rate. The next chapter of inanity unfolds.
 
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The only way they can succeed in this is to create in house programs. Independent appraisers will be reluctant to train. Therefore I predict a number of AMC's will offer their staff appraisers a bonus to supervise and train. They'll get some takers to train the newbies how to do robot work in 48 hours. Fine, everybody else can continue real appraising for real clients.
 
what is an AMC?

and what are independent appraiser doing to fight back. quietly accepting AMC work. do not feed the animals.
 
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