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AQB Update On Proposed Changes To Appraiser Qualifications

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Let's be honest, here.

How many bad appraisals can be attributed to poor writing/ reasoning skills vs deliberate violations of the ETHICS RULE? Was it poor sentence structure that caused that gross overvaluation or was it the deliberate errors of omission or commission, committed for the express purpose of assisting a client to lie to the primary intended users of the appraisal?
 
Be honest

How much of bad appraisals is attributed to poor writing/reasoning skills vs deliberate violations of the ETHICS RULE? Was it poor sentence structure that caused that gross overvaluation or was it a deliberate error of omission or commission, committed for the express purpose of assisting a client to lie to the primary intended users of the appraisal?
The state? Requiring a degree is now blamed on the state?

If you are intent of forgoing state protection from competition, then drop your state appraisal license and compete against all the RE agents and other non licensed people who offer to do evaluations.

What i'm saying is that a lot of appraisers are trying to persuade the AQB to use the state to further protect our economic interests. And I already acknowledged my own interests. Moreover, FOR YEARS I have warned appraisers to protect their own economic interests by not raising their own competition via taking on trainees. I'm sure you can see the distinction between telling someone to act in their own interests vs advocating for the state to act on their behalf to protect their interests.
 
"public's perception of the professional status of appraisers." varies based on whether or not an appraiser hits the bullseyes they are given - or not - period.

Either "You Da Man$$$" or "You Da Incompetent Bum" lives on and on.
 
"public's perception of the professional status of appraisers." varies based on whether or not an appraiser hits the bullseyes they are given - or not - period.

Either "You Da Man$$$" or "You Da Incompetent Bum" lives on and on.

I can't deny that. It's like the opioids epedemic. It still lives.
 
How many bad appraisals can be attributed to poor writing/ reasoning skills vs deliberate violations of the ETHICS RULE? Was it poor sentence structure that caused that gross overvaluation or was it the deliberate errors of omission or commission, committed for the express purpose of assisting a client to lie to the primary intended users of the appraisal?

It's been my experience that 3rd grade writing skills seem to go hand-in-hand with 3rd grade analysis, often resulting in ridiculous conclusions. Education actually does solve the help this issue.
 
Education actually does solve the help this issue

I've never seen a 3rd grade writer in appraising, but okay.

If "education" solves that problem then the next step is "how much education"?

Lemme ask you something in all seriousness. If you had one of these appraisers assigned to you for 2 weeks - and it was a do-or-die situation for them - do you think you could help them get their report writing up to an "acceptable" level for SFR appraising?

What QE training did these appraisers take that they were able to pass with such a low-quality skill set, and how much room for improvement could we make at the QE level?

The point being that I believe there's a lot more room for improvement at what these donkeys are willing to do before we get to what they're able to do.
 
wrong. appraisers as a whole are individuals,

Many post this, but it is not correct without qualification. People in this profession familiar with demographics have noted on this forum that something like 50%+ of appraisers are actually employed, not ICs. That makes sense once one considers those employed by lenders of all types. those employed by management companies, various municipalities (which include assessor's offices, property divisions, etc.), etc. Independent contractors tend to think otherwise, simply because they aren't in an environment where they are meeting peers from other sections of the business on a regular basis.
 
George Hatch
How much of bad appraisals is attributed to poor writing/reasoning skills vs deliberate violations of the ETHICS RULE? Was it poor sentence structure that caused that gross overvaluation or was it a deliberate error of omission or commission, committed for the express purpose of assisting a client to lie to the primary intended users of the appraisal?

My opinion, from having reviewed hundreds of these appraisals and interaction with appraisers over the years, is that bad appraisal are rarely due to poor writing skills, a segment may be due to poor reasoning skills, and a larger segment due to violations of the ethics rule. Where I depart from you is I believe that lack of a degree /equivalent in SOME cases, but far too many imo, leads to inadvertent violation of ethics because they cant' stand their ground and are easier to manipulate into it. Just as post HVCC the manipulation went to low fees/ knock them out like fast food TT

It is far less frequent that the college grads or equiv cant' tell the difference of an ethical line into a rationale of everybody is doing it or it's just another 10k slippery slope. If a college grad s going to cross the line, it is likely to be deliberate . There are far fewer people with the sociopath tendency to commit ethics violations or inflate value deliberately than there are weak reasoning or ill prepared to deal with pressure people that go in the wrong direction.The fact that professions with a higher level of education barrier see far fewer go in the wrong direction is an indicator.

For years I took live continuing ed USPAP with a great instructor who gave textbook and real world ethics violation examples...the eye rolling, doodling of cartoons and derision under breath elicited from a section of appraisers was telling- I did not ask them did you go to college,but their demeanor, conversation etc indicated they did not. I hate to write it because I don't want to sound like a snob but this is my direct experience.

What i'm saying is that a lot of appraisers are trying to persuade the AQB to use the state to further protect our economic interests. And I already acknowledged my own interests. Moreover, FOR YEARS I have warned appraisers to protect their own economic interests by not raising their own competition via taking on trainees. I'm sure you can see the distinction between telling someone to act in their own interests vs advocating for the state to act on their behalf to protect their interests]

Like I said, if you position against the state protection of your economic interest, drop your state appraisal license and compete without one. I see nothing wrong if appraisers expect a state to protect their interests, The lenders and AMC's have no problem lobbying or going for seats on state boards or govt agencies to protect their interests.
 
My freshman English professor at a very large public university regularly mis-used the verb to be. "I weren't..." was hilarious to me and still would be if she wasn't later tenured...after she finished her Doctorate. A PhD in English that can't conjugate the verb to be teaching others. Gotta get me one of them thar degrees.
One can find exceptions to just about every rule, but so what? But that does not change the reality that college grads are more likely to have better writing skills and critical thinking skills than non-college grads.
 
Be honest

How much of bad appraisals is attributed to poor writing/reasoning skills vs deliberate violations of the ETHICS RULE? Was it poor sentence structure that caused that gross overvaluation or was it a deliberate error of omission or commission, committed for the express purpose of assisting a client to lie to the primary intended users of the appraisal?


What i'm saying is that a lot of appraisers are trying to persuade the AQB to use the state to further protect our economic interests. And I already acknowledged my own interests. Moreover, FOR YEARS I have warned appraisers to protect their own economic interests by not raising their own competition via taking on trainees. I'm sure you can see the distinction between telling someone to act in their own interests vs advocating for the state to act on their behalf to protect their interests.

That is off base for you. I don't have time to elaborate. The purpose of USPAP is public trust.
 
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