Smartexchange

[Deleted member 130081]

That's real classy.
He was in business to make money. He sold his successful business to make money.
Rot in Hell? Betray us?
So, you think he was around simply to "serve and forward the interest of appraisers" ?
You're gettin' all crazy on us again, like you did back in July.

We all have our Gods miktay. You have made yours clear to all here.

As far as classy well...I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[miktay]

We all have our Gods miktay. You have made yours clear to all here.

As far as classy well...I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'll respond as soon as you make some common sense.
(ps: What happened to you being the "rock-n-roll DJ" of the Appraiser Forum?)

 

[Skeletor]

Please don't do it, folks...appraisers are supposed to verify and vet their own comps and data, not dump it in as spoon fed to them

Most appraisers get it wrong anyway, especially on waterfront, rural, high-end, and other complex properties. With the cr@p I review sometimes, it's no wonder we have such a bad reputation. Now we're going to share data? LMMMMMAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 130081]

I'll respond as soon as you make some common sense.
(ps: What happened to you being the "rock-n-roll DJ" of the Appraiser Forum?)

LOL. O gee I will wait on the edge of my seat for your response.

As for the DJ well...I have moved to just the daily dose.

 

[TRESinc]

Biggers can rot in hell. All those years of faithfully serving and forwarding the interests of appraisers, only to betray us all at the end for a couple of bucks. That is Biggers legacy. All the good wiped out in a single move. Of course Corelogic bought alamode to mine the data - duh.

he lost all credibility years ago. first it was when he posted on here that he hated 90% of the appraisers who used his software. the next nail was when he started canceling the subscriptions to alamode software to anyone who complained about it on this forum. i know of a handful of appraisers that happened to. he even went so far as to try to cancel the subscription a family member of mine had at the time that was never registered to me. a little talking with an attorney and that was squashed quite quickly. it was one of the best moves i made as i was long gone from alamode when he sold out to corelogic and screwed appraisers yet again. he had a huge set of bals that were only superseded by his ego.

 

[Vermonter]

I don't think I'd trust the "data" in Skippy's file. I'll keep doing it myself. thanks.

The problem is when you report the correct data and 10 skippies report the incorrect data....you still get the stip from the client.

 

[Tim Hicks (Texas)]

In this day and age of good MLS data (in my area), it is not needed.

 

[Evincere]

It appears that Alamode/Total can mine your report data for this "new service" --- marketed via recent update sources you currently use to verify property details, SmartExchange gives you immediate access to pure, UAD formatted appraisal data provided by other appraisers who've opted in to the program" ---> what's to prevent them from mining your report data during transmission when uploading/emailing/delivering, or accessing directly from your computers which "house" Total software? Anyone else have privacy/control/data ownership concerns?

Also - considered as separate parts -- data is worth much more combined & analyzed by an appraiser... and can be a pandora's box if comp data is reported incorrectly by one appraiser and then used subsequently by others?

What will be appraiser's compensation for the data they provide?

Your thoughts?

My thoughts. Since this smart thing is ready to rock and roll nationally and in order for it to work It makes sense that since their acquisition they’ve been able to data mine legacy and new Appraisal data from reports processed through their platform. And of course the Appraisers whose data is mined is unaware and never reimbursed for its use and re sale to other Appraisers.

the real magic is for them in that data can be bought back and recycled for .99 a report. I think maybe, their goal is misstated. We’re it not for the acquisition of the Appraisers data they would have nothing to sell but their yearly software subscriptions.

Reminds me of a toll booth where not only is a toll collected coming and going, they also get to do a search and seizure and take what they want.

Question:
How does it really work?
Answer:

SmartExchange allows you to transparently share your comps grid data with your peers — and get access to theirs — in a way that's so simple, and so quick, that it's actually hard to demonstrate. The best way to describe it is "typing magic": You type an address in the grid exactly like you do now, and suddenly you see the rest of the grid for that comp filled out. Instantly.

No clunky MLS importing. No retyping of messy data. No expensive third‑party tools guessing at it either. *

* How's it all possible? Well, with so many appraisers out there using our software, and everyone typing in many comps per report, it means that nearly every comp in your market has been entered into a grid by one or more appraisers before you got to it.*

Why retype it if someone else has already done so the first time? That's the whole value of crowdsourcing — using the magic of large numbers of people so that it lightens the load on any one person. Simply put, our goal is that no two appraisers should ever again have to do duplicate data entry for any one comp address.

 

[J Grant]

CL ...and the others promoting magic solutions to problems we don't have, want to extort $ from appraisers at every turn, in the guise of trying to "help" us become more efficient, faster, not duplicate data entry etc...all that does is help the skippies who data dump , sign, crank them out and thus undercut on fees, no thank you.

this is my polite, CP version btw...

 

[BarrySW1963]

Some of the data we use in the grid may have been transcribed directly from sources we pay for in order to access the data (for example: lot sizes, maybe MLS numbers and DOM/CDOM). Just because that data is now in the grid doesn't mean that data is "ours" to "share" with smartexchange. I noticed that the terms of service referenced compliance with other underlying TOS. In my opinion, this is CoreLogic trying to use appraisers to mine data from other sources by way of the grid, and then pay CoreLogic to add the data to their already-massive database which they'll then sell back to us as a subscription service. I see the appraiser as the one that will get screwed, because they are essentially taking data from one source and providing it to another company that has not paid for access to that data.

Also, some fields are opinion fields, including condition and quality ratings. It may be ok to "share" that for comps, but not for the subject, as it would be considered assignment results for the subject.