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when the day comes that we get to 95% analysis risk free, there will always be the element of; job loss / downsizing / personality conflicts to reduce earnings, that will impact the unforeseen risk
Any computerized risk assessment "risks" being gamed. Therefore, once someone figures out the secret algorithm within reason, they can sell those marginal properties all day long via "waiver". That ultimately compromises the algorithm.
 
And how exactly has the HVCC made for better appraisals? Or better yet, removed AMC/Lender pressure from the equation.

If you had seen the body of work that was coming into the lenders from their wholesale lines and compared them to the staff appraisals that lender was doing you would be shocked to see the difference in the levels of apparent bias. I was doing reviews for one of the big boxes of their wholesale lines and was working for their regional manager (they recruited me to do it) on an outside fee-review basis, so I know.

I was routinely saving that lender about $1M a week in the overvalued portions of these value conclusions.

Now the implication about the direct lenders (working directly through their AMCs) is that they're transmitting their pressure via blacklisting and ROVs and stips, but that's separate and apart from when a Mtg Bkr is controlling the engagement. For one thing a lender doing that on a systematic basis is building a paper trail that the regulators can (if/when they're looking) readily identify, right down to the individuals who are making those decisions. That's effectively impossible to do with the Mtg Bkrs.

So I am not suggesting "lender pressure" has been eradicated, but I am saying that it's been reduced to a fraction of what it was. And ANY fractional reduction completely justifies cutting the MBs out of the loop regardless of what else happened to your fees.

Nobody ever owed a business opportunity of any type, and they certainly never owed you the right to require the lenders to continue to use bkr-engaged appraisals. The nature of business is that we look for whatever the opportunities there are and proceed to work those opportunities. It is not to expect the State to set aside those opportunities for you.
 
When we compare, we only compare within the same credit box. in every case, loans with waivers performed better than loans with the same risk profile (LTV, FICO, etc) the AVM does better. That is because, as I said before, we only use the AVM when we know it does better

It a magic elixir, kind of like EXOS.
 
but but but how could the mortgage broker estimating value pass the test as truly being unbiased documents :rof: :rof: :rof:
 
If you had seen the body of work that was coming into the lenders from their wholesale lines and compared them to the staff appraisals that lender was doing you would be shocked to see the difference in the levels of apparent bias. I was doing reviews for one of the big boxes of their wholesale lines and was working for their regional manager (they recruited me to do it) on an outside fee-review basis, so I know.

I was routinely saving that lender about $1M a week in the overvalued portions of these value conclusions.

Now the implication about the direct lenders (working directly through their AMCs) is that they're transmitting their pressure via blacklisting and ROVs and stips, but that's separate and apart from when a Mtg Bkr is controlling the engagement. For one thing a lender doing that on a systematic basis is building a paper trail that the regulators can (if/when they're looking) readily identify, right down to the individuals who are making those decisions. That's effectively impossible to do with the Mtg Bkrs.

So I am not suggesting "lender pressure" has been eradicated, but I am saying that it's been reduced to a fraction of what it was. And ANY fractional reduction completely justifies cutting the MBs out of the loop regardless of what else happened to your fees.

Nobody ever owed a business opportunity of any type, and they certainly never owed you the right to require the lenders to continue to use bkr-engaged appraisals. The nature of business is that we look for whatever the opportunities there are and proceed to work those opportunities. It is not to expect the State to set aside those opportunities for you.

While I agree the past system was broken, this one is not much better. Case in point. You think this might have something to do with the quality of reports some on this thread are talking about.?

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An appraisal is a subset of the broader category of services that we can call "valuations". All appraisals are valuations but most valuations are not appraisals. A BPO is a valuation. An AVM is a valuation. But they're not appraisals. Just because there's a number doesn't make it an appraisal. We don't expect BPOs to be unbiased, and really, there's no reason to assume an AVM is unbiased or credible just because its an AVM.

The difference is that all those products you mentioned are mostly unregulated. In contrast, appraisals might be one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country.
 
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