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Another "paired" appraisal allegation, Seattle

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Looking at the house, and seeing the kitchen in the video, its still definitely a Q4/C4 for the area. To be Q3 in Columbia City (or really anywhere in Seattle), you would need a remodeled kitchen with new cabinets and counters (preferably quartz or granite). The flooring in the kitchen looks well worn and they don't even have trim around the back door... The surrounding sales don't really support the 2nd appraisal, save a few high ones, which the 2nd appraiser probably relied on most.

5604 39th Ave S, Seattle, WA 98118 at $825,000 is superior in quality and condition.
5202 35th Ave S, Seattle, WA 98118 at $600,000, closer in quality and condition.

Both have slightly larger overall square footage.

I would probably say a value of $670,000 might be a bit low, but the one over 900K seems really high for such a small house. I also appraise homes in that particular neighborhood all the time, its less than 2 miles from my office.

Prices are also declining like nothing else in that area. CMA shows pricing averaging $879,500 4-6 months ago, down to $787,000 in the last 1-3 months.

It also only has 1 bathroom which is a considerable handicap in this market. I think the majority of home buyers would be turned off by only having 1 bathroom.

The location map looks great, I would use any of those comps in that particular area that they show.

They also may have overpaid initially. The original listing price was $539,990, and it sold for $482,500 in late 2018. Things were still really hot back then in that market, so a sale under list would have been rare. Id be willing to bet the original appraiser for that sale just "made it work", and it created an unrealistic expectation of what the house was worth to the owners. I see that all the time.

Boy...I hope they enjoy their 15 minutes of fame. I just don't see how the 2nd appraiser was correct though. I also think its funny that in EVERY one of these stories, the news grabs ahold of the 2 values and just assumes the higher one is correct. The news outlets in the area are very sensational in their coverage, so of course they would perpetuate bad information just to get the views. Their whole shpeal about "Seattle prices are record highs", means they really have not seen the rapidly deflating pricing over the last 6 months. Maybe they purposefully blinded themselves to it, who knows.
 
Looking at the house, and seeing the kitchen in the video, its still definitely a Q4/C4 for the area. To be Q3 in Columbia City (or really anywhere in Seattle), you would need a remodeled kitchen with new cabinets and counters (preferably quartz or granite). The flooring in the kitchen looks well worn and they don't even have trim around the back door... The surrounding sales don't really support the 2nd appraisal, save a few high ones, which the 2nd appraiser probably relied on most.

5604 39th Ave S, Seattle, WA 98118 at $825,000 is superior in quality and condition.
5202 35th Ave S, Seattle, WA 98118 at $600,000, closer in quality and condition.

Both have slightly larger overall square footage.

I would probably say a value of $670,000 might be a bit low, but the one over 900K seems really high for such a small house. I also appraise homes in that particular neighborhood all the time, its less than 2 miles from my office.

Prices are also declining like nothing else in that area. CMA shows pricing averaging $879,500 4-6 months ago, down to $787,000 in the last 1-3 months.

It also only has 1 bathroom which is a considerable handicap in this market. I think the majority of home buyers would be turned off by only having 1 bathroom.

The location map looks great, I would use any of those comps in that particular area that they show.

They also may have overpaid initially. The original listing price was $539,990, and it sold for $482,500 in late 2018. Things were still really hot back then in that market, so a sale under list would have been rare. Id be willing to bet the original appraiser for that sale just "made it work", and it created an unrealistic expectation of what the house was worth to the owners. I see that all the time.

Boy...I hope they enjoy their 15 minutes of fame. I just don't see how the 2nd appraiser was correct though. I also think its funny that in EVERY one of these stories, the news grabs ahold of the 2 values and just assumes the higher one is correct. The news outlets in the area are very sensational in their coverage, so of course they would perpetuate bad information just to get the views. Their whole shpeal about "Seattle prices are record highs", means they really have not seen the rapidly deflating pricing over the last 6 months. Maybe they purposefully blinded themselves to it, who knows.
And the actual reports never fall into the wrong hands so someone who understands what we do can peruse them. Preferably someone like you, with knowledge of the market.
 
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I found the property: it's located on the 3500 block of S Bennett Street in 98118. Hilarity ensues. Spending 5 minutes on Zillow will reveal that the 2nd appraiser is in a bad spot.


Here's a couple screengrabs from the video in the article:

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That roof doesn't look so good, single pane windows
 
Ok so I still think there is some biased opinions, I have seen it in reviews. However, I think some appraisers are just higher or lower than others because they have different processes and philosophies. Some people are more conservative. Let this be a lesson to us all, be as fair as possible, don't low ball it or do any favors. Path of least resistance. Anyway you look at it, cookie cutters need to be front in center of this argument not older homes that are unique. The one in Marin was 500K difference and the prices are all over the place, there are topography issues. I have noticed too that when properties sell at a discount and then they remodel sometimes the appraiser doesn't pay much attention. Some appraisers are being conservative because of the weird volatile economy we are in and the prices that are seemingly unaffordable. Some appraisers may be overcompensating for fear of liability and overvaluing property.
 
IMO, this is another refi wherein the "generational wealth" was never at risk. After all, the only way a property owner can lose the wealth is if they lose the asset or sell it (to another buyer who is acting in THEIR own interests) for less than it's MV.

This is a C4 property with 1ba and no onsite parking possible. The subject attributes are supposed to form the starting point for comp selection. Not going straight to highly remodeled homes (+ 1 dated outlier) of much larger size just because they have higher prices.

Including the $1.1M home w/ major remodel, 700sf of additional living area, more bd/ba and onsite parking as one of the "most similar sales" to this property would be ... unfortunate... if an appraiser actually did that. Citing it in support of a $929k value for this property wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. How does a C4 of 1350sf and 3/1 room count get appraised for only $80k less than the superior-in-every-way remodel? It doesn't.
 
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I'm still flabbergasted at all the errors and deceptions told in this story. At 2:14 the video states that the difference between the high and low appraisal was over $300,000, but the article says it was a $259,000 difference. Does that mean the reporter stole $40k in generational wealth from the homeowner?
 
I'm still flabbergasted at all the errors and deceptions told in this story. At 2:14 the video states that the difference between the high and low appraisal was over $300,000, but the article says it was a $259,000 difference. Does that mean the reporter stole $40k in generational wealth from the homeowner?
Racist math
 
after years of watching the lying media, we know one thing with 100% certainty. If "the truth" happens to wind up on this in front of the camera, it will not have been by those corporate sell outs :giggle:
 
Why spend years watching lying media....
 
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