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Homogeneous banned from the appraisal lexicon

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I worship in my home. But my house is not a church.

Another reason? I am sick to death of all this crap and am drawing lines in the sand. Someone has to take a stand, no matter how small. Join me?
Not on that one... Question: Is a church a place of worship?

Reason I'm asking is that my first reaction to this request was similar to yours. Upon reflection, however, I decided that it did not impair my analysis to call the building a place of worship - even though the sign out front CLEARLY said 'Church'. So then I had to ask myself: why the angst? At the end of the day - it was primarily about the 10 minutes or so I would have to spend revising the report... decided I could live with that. I get it if others don't share my view, though.
I can see why @Overimprovement could want to state "Church" instead of place of worship
That is a statement of fact. It is a "Church" not just a place of worship. Just like a Synagogue is a Synagogue and a Mosque is a Mosque and and and ... Those are statement of facts
They should not be taken as any sort of bias. That is just silly. Just like when we state that comp 1 sold on a specific date, that is a statement of fact. We can prove that

On the other hand, I can see why @alebrewer would just call it a place of worship. That is also a fact. Sadly this version is pretty much guaranteed to flow right through the "review" of the report and OI's will be required to have additional verbiage, etc.

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I can see why @Overimprovement could want to state "Church" instead of place of worship
That is a statement of fact. It is a "Church" not just a place of worship. Just like a Synagogue is a Synagogue and a Mosque is a Mosque and and and ... Those are statement of facts
They should not be taken as any sort of bias. That is just silly. Just like when we state that comp 1 sold on a specific date, that is a statement of fact. We can prove that

On the other hand, I can see why @alebrewer would just call it a place of worship. That is also a fact. Sadly this version is pretty much guaranteed to flow right through the "review" of the report and OI's will be required to have additional verbiage, etc.

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Fully agreed on all points. Another part of the issue, though, and one touched on by GH, but not really developed, is that we don't own that report. One poster yesterday wrote, "It's my written report". And I think that mentality is what drives a lot of the unwillingness to 'compromise' our integrity. In actuality, though, it's not our report. It's not written for us, it's not paid for by us. We are being paid to deliver a product/service - and at the point of transmission, it no longer belongs to us. It belongs to the client.

It seems to me the easiest way to address this stuff is to collect whatever group of words we're not supposed to use, and include that in the engagement letter. That way, everyone knows up front what the expectations are, and the appraiser has the choice to decline the assignment should he/she decide banning the word 'church' would adversely affect the credibility of his/her results.
 
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The following definition is from the state of California's online Appraisal Training.

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I have no problem coming up with different words to convey these principles/characteristics as they apply to properties and neighborhoods (not people) and they are relevant to the assignment. However, when the industry adopts language changes like this, is it possible we actually create risk? My concern is that, if we don't defend an appropriate use of terminology, then we actually create liability for prior appropriate usage. In two years, who's to say plaintiffs won't be arguing "It was never ok to use homogeneous. It always had racial connotations."
Well, they are arguing that red lining from a century ago is resulting in appraiser bias today. And I suspect some of the FNMA complaints being filed will hinge on the use of terms that have specific meanings in real estate and appraising that carry no bias. A valid concern. This is outside the realm of considering bias by individual appraisers. It is about creating a systemic means by which to discredit appraisers, for use by anyone who doesn't get their way.
 
Well, they are arguing that red lining from a century ago is resulting in appraiser bias today.
And maybe that is a valid discussion. But I think the discussion should focus on ideas rather than words.

For anyone interested in more historical context, you can read Chapter 7 "Influence of Social and Racial Factors" from The Valuation of Real Estate by Fredrick M Babcock (First Ed., 1932). There are some interesting observations by Babcock about neighborhood development cycles through a social and racial lens. Here's a teaser:
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I do not know if Babcock was a racist. I don't think he was advocating for segregation (above), but just making 1930s-esque observations. But by today's standards, many of which came out of the Fair Housing Act, most of these observations would be prohibited in today's appraisal practice.

And so, maybe eliminating the use of certain words like "homogeneous" might just be viewed as a continuation of this process/progress. Time will tell. Even though I approach these issues from the left, I think progressive attempts to engineer or restrict language fail when they don't confront the "offensive" or discriminatory nature of the ideas/concepts behind the words. The Fair Housing Act confronted discriminatory policies. It would be better if the financial industry took an honest look at the appraisal methods rather than just doing the politically expedient thing of banning language as an expediency to avoid lender risk.

I'm not promoting any of these ideas, but I think a debate could be had on whether or not, based on user direction:
-The appraiser should discuss or consider the negative impacts of neighboring disparate uses on residential property values, which create a lack of conformity, including religious uses.
-The appraiser should adjust for obsolescence caused by a highway that was deliberately placed through a redlined neighborhood.
-The appraiser should adjust for seller concessions up to a certain percentage. (This could close the appraisal gap.)
-First-time buyers should be allowed a second appraisal if the first one comes in below their expectations. (This too could close the appraisal gap.) And
-Reparations for our black citizens should be offered in the form of favorable financing terms.

Attacking market-based valuations, without nuance, seems like a poor use of political capital. Howell is engaging on the topic in a useful manner, I just think she goes too far when other more realistic and achievable steps can be taken. On the other end are those who immediately lie down to the "appraisal bias" narrative out of fear without engaging in a serious discussion, which can hurt both appraisers and also those impacted by discrimination.
 

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I can see why @Overimprovement could want to state "Church" instead of place of worship
That is a statement of fact. It is a "Church" not just a place of worship. Just like a Synagogue is a Synagogue and a Mosque is a Mosque and and and ... Those are statement of facts
They should not be taken as any sort of bias. That is just silly. Just like when we state that comp 1 sold on a specific date, that is a statement of fact. We can prove that

On the other hand, I can see why @alebrewer would just call it a place of worship. That is also a fact. Sadly this version is pretty much guaranteed to flow right through the "review" of the report and OI's will be required to have additional verbiage, etc.

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"Garfield Park is a black neighborhood in Chicago's South Side, with some of the highest violent crime rates in the City."

This is a statement of fact. But it has no place in an appraisal.
 
When you thought it could not get any more ridiculous, the word Nazis strike again. According to Solidifi, the term homogeneous cannot be used in appraisal reports. Maybe we should do away with the entire English language while we’re at it. Instead of worrying about this garbage, Soliidfi should be concerned about the crap appraisal their form-fillers are producing.

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I got a note from a client/bank not to use the heading or wording "master" bedroom in my reports any longer! FNMA sent me a warning (the only criticism I have had in 38+ years from anyone) that I had used biased language in three reports. I had used the words- "more desirable", "better than" and "more favorable" to describe the subject neighborhood and explain location adjustments! I won't say what I was thinking but just that I was highly perturbed. I replied to FNMA that I am not, have never been prejudiced or biased in my 38+ years of appraising and didn't appreciate their implications. They replied by "thanking" me for the letter and kindly provided me with a list of "okay" words to use.

Good grief! Going from one extreme to the other! Thank goodness I am at the end of my career as an appraiser for any Federal transacted loans. Private work only, not for a bunch of fanatical idiots that will not allow an appraiser to properly describe properties or make adjustments.
 
In actuality, though, it's not our report. It's not written for us, it's not paid for by us. We are being paid to deliver a product/service - and at the point of transmission, it no longer belongs to us. It belongs to the client.
Unless you are John Deere or Microsoft/Apple et al - then you simply 'license' the item you paid for...so maybe we should be licensing our reports to our clients.
 
"Garfield Park is a black neighborhood in Chicago's South Side, with some of the highest violent crime rates in the City."

This is a statement of fact. But it has no place in an appraisal.
Does crime rate affect market participation? If so, your carte blanche statement would be incorrect insofar as whether or not it 'has a place'. It MIGHT have a place if your analysis demonstrates quantifiable market behavior differences - for example, you have to select a sale from a different neighborhood and the only reason you can find for the price difference is the crime rate difference. That said - and hearkening back to my earlier points about who owns the appraisal - if the users of our services/products prefer NOT to have that type of analysis in the report, and we conclude that excluding that type of analysis wouldn't adversely affect the credibility of our results, we shouldn't use that type of language.
 
Unless you are John Deere or Microsoft/Apple et al - then you simply 'license' the item you paid for...so maybe we should be licensing our reports to our clients.
Interesting concept.
 
Really impossible for me to understand why some forumites are taking this so personal....
It's going out everyone....
Probably to everyone in the mortgage process/industry....
God almighty....
What a bunch of (fill in the blank)....
I can't imagine why the industry is looking to eventually eliminate humans from the process....
 
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