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Self-employed appraisers are not locked into any single source of engagement or employment. No different than a farmer who sells their output in the market, whether hand-to-hand at a farmer's market or in lots or batches or its entirety to a wholesaler or brokerage. No different than a parts manufacturer who's output is being sold to a car manufacturer for use in their operations. No different than an accountant or atty who sells their output in the market.

Not to belabor the point, but the consumers in every one of these mortgage-related transactions are the lenders, not the borrowers. And the govt has already brought those lenders under regulation by first imposing our services on them and then imposing further limits on the form and the sourcing of these appraisals. Govt has prohibited two of the potential sources (borrower controlled or broker controlled) of these appraisals but has left direct engagement and AMC engagement in lieu of direct engagement. This entire end of the profession already exists as an unfunded tax on commerce. Insofar as mortgage lending end of the business, most of it wouldn't even exist if the govt hadn't imposed our services on these lenders - against their will.


Moreover, when the only solution to the self-employed appraiser's problem is govt intervention into the marketplace to FORCE the consumer (the lender) to pay more than they would otherwise pay in those transactions, that's the opposite of capitalism.

In any case and as it relates to self-employed entrepreneurs, free to profit on their own also means free to fail on their own. Any self-employed appraiser who doesn't want to go commando can go seek a 9-5, where they really WILL be working for a single employer and a single source of income.
You are losing it. Govt helps farmers. You worked for government as law enforcement.

Borrowers not involved?

Mortgage fraud is still rampant.

Yes, separation of fees was not allowed at last minute on truth in lending disclosures to borrowers.

I would not bet my life Chopra (CFPB) don't get on the regulators to separate AMC/APPRAISER fees.

Chopra has authority over every lending regulator.
 
Chopra (CFPB) has authority over gses.

I won't swear they can't overrule FTC. But possible.

Notice Chopra was always last to speak in hearings.
 
CFPB is possibly the most powerful federal authority ever created.
 
You are losing it. Govt helps farmers. You worked for government as law enforcement.

Borrowers not involved?

Mortgage fraud is still rampant.

Yes, separation of fees was not allowed at last minute on truth in lending disclosures to borrowers.

I would not bet my life Chopra (CFPB) don't get on the regulators to separate AMC/APPRAISER fees.

Chopra has authority over every lending regulator.
Govt doesn't help all farmers, but even to the extent ag subsidies exist it is as a function of ensuring food stability and national security, not as an unearned social entitlement system for a particular sector of commerce.
 
You don't see any of the gses, FDIC, fslic, etc etc ever questioning CFPB.
 
Govt doesn't help all farmers, but even to the extent ag subsidies exist it is as a function of ensuring food stability and national security, not as an unearned social entitlement system for a particular sector of commerce.
Your getting off topic Sir. We are on appraisal orders and commingling of fees and sorts.
 
Back to square 1. You appraise real property rights.
I was going to expand but your blessed I didn't .

However, back to topic. I will be surprised if CFPB does not get right in the middle of the original poster.
 
17 bid orders from AMCs in the last two weeks this month and none were accepted. Where are all of the appraisal orders and where is this industry going! It’s miserable waking up to an empty inbox.

What fees are you guys bidding for a regular 1004 URAR? Because I go low and nothing then I set it to normal fee and also zip. Something is off.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am in the New Jersey/New York market.
I like you and don't know you.

Have you looked at local lenders or other avenues?

I would hire you.
 
Okay, commingling of fees is horrible OP.
 
Govt doesn't help all farmers, but even to the extent ag subsidies exist it is as a function of ensuring food stability and national security, not as an unearned social entitlement system for a particular sector of commerce.
I don;t get it - you would sign a petiotn to help consumers, but not to help appraisers ?
Unlike yourself, most companies do not like to see the already modest fees of a worker ( appraiser ) taken from them as a government perk, and that is why the fee amount reaching the appraiser in an AMC-sent order is so obscenely low.

The GSEs"s and the AMC/lender overlords have no problem using the government to protect THEIR fees, their role and their and profit !!! Which is exactly what they re doing here, by not stepping forward and redtiivyjng this and allowing the lender to evace paying appraisal related costs in either running their own order dept or by paying th eAMC management fee as a cost item.
 
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