No College Degree for Cert Generals or Residential Appraisers

[J Grant]

I read a stat that 55% of the appraisers had a college

That last line is some wishful thinking on your part. You WISH that I was anti-appraiser or pro-AMC or whatever because that would enable your Argument to Motive (another logical fallacy) - I'm wrong because of my motivations and not because of the facts. Except that the facts are the facts regardless of anyone's motivations, so even if you were right about me being some shill it still wouldn't alter the facts. .

No matter what, "took from the lenders" doesn't demonstrate "gave to the AMCs", especially when considering that not all the lenders made the same choice. "Not prohibiting an existing practice" doesn't demonstrate "creating new rights/privileges".

Your so-called facts have been proven wrong.

Perhaps you believe it when you say you are on the side of appraisers or neutral. Yet for years, you flood these topics with endless accusations about how apparisrs are hypocritical, expect a freebie, and so on. Yet the same charge is not leveled with such fervor at the stakeholders and third parties who profit from the government largesse and freebies. (at the expense of appraisers )

 

[George Hatch]

The numbers just don't support the allegation of "handful control the market". You can't math it any differently. Even if they were working together the 13% cannot control what the other 86% do with their respective volumes. Not when the total for just one state is in excess of 200.

 

[Carnivore]

My best guess is that Mamdani supports Jgrant's positions

 

[George Hatch]

Your so-called facts have been proven wrong.

Perhaps you believe it when you say you are on the side of appraisers or neutral. Yet for years, you flood these topics with endless accusations about how apparisrs are hypocritical, expect a freebie, and so on. Yet the same charge is not leveled with such fervor at the stakeholders and third parties who profit from the government largesse and freebies. (at the expense of appraisers )

Incidentally, you're doing that tone policing thing again - You're not disputing the content (these discussions are all about your fees and nothing else regardless of the gaslighting you're using). Instead you are fixating on my commentary thereof and accusing me of ignoring the conduct of the bankers.

Except that I have never ever ignored the conduct of the bankers and AMCs. OF COURSE they're doing the same thing - agitating for their own interests. I never said nor suggested otherwise and I have in fact acknowledged what they're doing; I just don't do it every day. Their conduct goes without saying except that you're getting upset that I'm treating it like it goes without saying.

"Appraisers are guilty of pursuing their own interests, too" is not a contradiction to "lenders and AMCs are pursuing their own interests". Both can and are true at the same time.

By contrast, appraiser qualifications isn't supposed to be about the money. THAT question is supposed to be about what it takes to do the work. That can be true at the same time "appraisers have no leverage in the market" can be true.

 

[George Hatch]

The AMC is not just shopping by price. The AMC is shopping for PROFIT to themselves from the vendor/appraiser.

I'm just going to let this little gem sit by itself.

 

[glenn walker]

It's always about the money and if fees were double there would be nobody complaining. The problem is appraisers have no political leverage or advocates and by choice most elected to be self employed 1099 vendors.

Vendors have no power unless they control a market in distribution and cost.

Finally it doesn't matter why or who and it's like yelling at the sky it may release tension and emotions but won't cause it to rain and time for folks to move on or shut up because they have no solutions.

 

[George Hatch]

I do not criticize discourse which actually revolves around "the fee". Of course that's a critical issue. I just think its a separate issue from most of the other controversies, each of which bear discussion on their own respective merits.

 

[J Grant]

The numbers just don't support the allegation of "handful control the market". You can't math it any differently. Even if they were working together the 13% cannot control what the other 86% do with their respective volumes. Not when the total for just one state is in excess of 200.

The 13% controls the vast majority of the volume. AI, pulled from numerous sources, attests to it.

Are you purposely mispresenting what AI said? When it referenced Solidifi as an example of the high volume AMC ordering 18,000 in a single month?> Myself and the many appraisers who actually worked for AMC s can attest to the hgh volume from a narrow set .

. Sign yourself up with every AMC in the state of California for res work. See how many actually give you an order or even solicit a bid.
The 86% are small volume and in some areas, no volume AMC's.

Not a big deal for an AMC to register in a state. It costs peanuts. They might have appraisal work in just one county, Or register in case they can snag a client there.,

 

[J Grant]

AI Overview



An Appraisal Management Company (AMC) will register in a state where it currently has no work primarily
to ensure compliance with federal and state laws so that it is legally permitted to perform work there in the future. This proactive registration avoids potential business interruptions, fines, and legal penalties.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Meaning you have to take all CE and continue to pay the annual licensing fee. If you don't your done and the only way to re-enter is to go back to the beginning and start all over.

Have a friend doing exactly that and has to take all the CE and pay back fees, etc. It will take him six months or more to restore his license.